Wednesday, April 18, 2012

It’s Trayvon Martin’s World: Sanford, FL Police Throw SYG and Self-Defense Out the Window; Black Perp Shouts Racial Slur at, Pistol-Whips Bloody from

Behind, and Points Gun at White Vic; Vic Shoots Perp, Gets Book Thrown at Him

By Nicholas Stix

According to WKMG News, on Monday, April 16, a black man named Brandon Long, shouted a racial epithet at a white man named Corey Michael Rose, pistol-whipped Rose bloody from behind, and then pointed the gun at Rose. When Rose pulled his own gun from his waistband, Long ran behind a car. Rose then ran to Long’s side of the car, and shot him “multiple times.”
But Sanford Police Sgt. Dave Morgenstern said the chain of events doesn't exactly point to a self-defense claim.

“It’s not really self defense whenever you go chase the person down who’s hiding behind a car, you go around the car and fire more shots at the person, that's not self defense," Morgenstern said.
Since the black assailant, Brandon Long, was hiding on the other side of a car with a gun, Sanford PD Sgt. Morgenstern is saying that the white victim, Corey Michael Rose, was legally obliged to passively wait for Long to kill him.

Rose has been “arrested and charged with attempted first degree murder, criminal attempt to solicit conspire [sic] and carrying a concealed weapon.”

If the facts cited in the WKMG story below are accurate, this was a classic Stand Your Ground defense, and the Sanford PD and the local prosecutor are breaking the law, where white (and white-enough) crime victims are concerned.

Note that the black WKMG reporter, Louis Bolden, uses the word “slapped,” in order to diminish the severity of Brandon Long’s attack

“Witnesses say the victim called Rose a racial slur, then slapped him across the face with his pistol.”

(“The victim”? If the witnesses all said that Rose acted in self-defense, they did not refer to Long as “the victim.” Bolden should have said “Long,” rather than “the victim.” He did so, in order to confuse viewers.)

The black witness Bolden interviews, Browdy Smith, uses much more stronger—and more accurate (how does a pistol-whipping become a “slap”?) language, and insists that Corey Michael Rose engaged in classic self-defense:

Smith: [Long] came from behind the guy and pistol-whipped him and the man was bloody.

I hate to see him go to jail. ‘Cause that was self-defense.
Bolden says, “Police say it started with an argument,” but that is contradicted by the only witness Bolden has speak on camera, Bolden does not cite any witness statements supporting the PD’s assertion, and he says that all of the “witnesses” say that Rose acted in self-defense.

I am focusing on this “argument” claim, because, as I have learned first-hand in New York, if a black starts menacing a white, cursing him out and threatening him, the police will sophistically translate that into a “verbal dispute,” which grants moral equivalence to both sides, and thus completely misrepresents what happened, in particular, the causality.

As I said to an NYPD cop who tried such sophistry with me last May, regarding a black thug who had threatened me and my son (after I’d saved the racist thug’s dog from running into traffic!), and then chased after us, “A verbal dispute is a Mets fan and a Yankees fan arguing about whose team is better!”

Someone shouting a racial epithet at you, sneaking up behind you and pistol-whipping you bloody, and pointing his gun in your face, is not an “argument.”

If anything should happen to Corey Michael Rose in jail, his blood will be on the hands of the Sanford PD and the local prosecutor. The department and the local prosecutor’s office have now gone completely over to the dark side, and are no more deserving of white support than are urban departments and prosecutors in Northern cities like New York.

Whites in cities like Sanford need to take action against their police departments and prosecutors. This could take the form of demonstrations, petitions, lawsuits and drives to cut their funding. If police and prosecutors are functioning as the armed accomplices of racist black thugs, then white citizens are better off without police and prosecutors, in which case they will only have the racist black thugs to defend themselves from.

Racist black thugs running wild equals anarchy.

Racist black thugs running wild, with police and prosecutors as their armed accomplices, equals anarcho-tyranny.

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Witnesses say racial slur could have sparked shooting at Sanford apartments
Corey Rose, 30, charged with attempted first degree murder
April 16, 2012, 5:43:50 p.m. EDT; updated on April 17 2012, 8:09:46 p.m. EDT

Witnesses: Racial slur may have caused shooting


Witnesses say a shooting at a Sanford apartment complex that led to one man being arrested and the other critically injured, could have started from a racial comment.

Police said Corey Michael Rose, 30, was in an altercation with Brandon Long at the Cedar Creek Apartments around 5 p.m. Monday.

Witnesses said Long, who is African-American, according to police reports, called Rose, who is white, a racial slur before hitting Rose in the face with his .40 caliber Glock.

"He came from behind the guy and pistol-whipped him and the man was bloody," said witness Browdy Smith.

Police said Long pointed the gun at Rose. Rose pulled out a gun from his pants and the two hid behind cars. Rose then sought out Long and shot him multiple times, according to the police report.

Long was airlifted to Orlando Regional Medical Center with multiple gunshot wounds.

Rose has been charged with attempted first degree murder, criminal attempt to solicit conspire and carrying a concealed weapon.

The altercation comes on the heels of the shooting death of Trayvon Martin in Sanford by neighborhood watchman George Zimmerman. Martin was unarmed when Zimmerman shot Martin, claiming he was attacked and it was in self-defense.

Witnesses said from what they saw, Rose [sic] acting in self-defense.

"I hate to see him go to jail, because that was self defense," Smith said.

But Sanford Police Sgt. Dave Morgenstern said the chain of events doesn't exactly point to a self-defense claim.

"It's not really self defense whenever you go chase the person down who's hiding behind a car, you go around the car and fire more shots at the person, that's not self defense," Morgenstern said.

It's not clear what Long's condition is. Rose was arrested and charged with attempted first degree murder, criminal attempt to solicit conspire and carrying a concealed weapon.

[A raised Florida law book to the Council of Conservative Citizens.

From WEJB/NSU’s Trayvon Martin Hoax files:

“Sanford, Florida: Black ‘Little Boy,’Trayvon Martin 17, Beat White ‘Vigilante’ George Zimmerman Bloody; Zimmerman Shot Martin Dead; Now Black WFTV ‘Reporter,’ Daralene Jones, Black Supremacists, and White Aunt Jemima Earwitness Demand That Zimmerman be Arrested”;

“Trayvon Martin: ABC ‘News’ Gets on Bandwagon, Acting as Martin’s Family Mouthpiece; Family Lawyer Refuses to Release All Information about Teen’s Last Phone Call to Girlfriend, but Insists That It Requires That George Zimmerman be Arrested ‘Right Now’”;

“Arrest First, Investigate Later: Press Conference by Lawyer Benjamin Crump, of Trayvon Martin’s Family, Seeks Through Violation of Due Process… to Railroad George Zimmerman”;

“News Coverage of the Trayvon Martin Case Keeps Getting Worse: New York Daily News Passes Off ABC News Hearsay as ‘Interview,’ While Changing the Hearsay!”;

“USA Today: ‘In wake of black teen Trayvon Martin's death, USA is soul-searching’; McPaper Invokes Jena 6, Quotes Al Sharpton, Self-Described ‘ThugNiggaIntellectual’ Mark Neal, and Jena Attacker Theo Shaw as Moral Authorities”;

“Why the Secret ‘Interview’ with Trayvon Martin’s Secret Girlfriend is Bogus, and His Alleged Last Cell Phone Call is Insignificant”;

“Another Trayvon Martin Supporter: Florida Atlantic U. Hate Crime Attacker Jonatha Carr Had Just been Interviewed about the Jena Six/Nuremberg-Style Rally She’s been Organizing; CBS12 News Tries to Rationalize Her Crimes”;

“Trayvon Martin’s Parents Attend New York City Riot Held on Their Behalf”;

Associated Press and Penn Live: Arrest George Zimmerman for Killing Trayvon Martin, the Law be Damned! Let Zimmerman Prove His Innocence in Court!”

National Review ‘Conservative’ Rich Lowry Goes to Bat for Al Sharpton in Trayvon Martin Case, Ignoring or Misrepresenting Facts of the Case”;

“Trayvon Martin Case: Real Eyewitness Supports Zimmerman’s Story, as Opposed to Lynch Mob’s Fake Eyewitnesses”;

“Barack Obama: Because Trayvon Martin was Black, and Vaguely Resembled Me, ‘All of Us Have to Do Some Soul-Searching’”;

Federale on the Trayvon Martin Hoax: National Review’s Rich Lowry and Robert VerBruggen Seek Street Cred with Black Supremacists by Sacrificing George Zimmerman; America Needs More Zimmermans, and Fewer Lowries and VerBruggens”;

“The Trayvon Martin Hoax: Business Insider Joins Mob Seeking to Lynch George Zimmerman”;

“The Trayvon Martin Hoax: Geraldo Rivera Finally Does the Right Thing!”;

“Black Supremacist Spike Lee (‘Tawana Told the Truth!’) is Trying to Get George Zimmerman Murdered, by Tweeting His Address: The Trayvon Martin Hoax”;

“Hoax Starts to Unravel: Trayvon Martin Started Fight, and was Going to Kill George Zimmerman”;

“George Zimmerman’s Lawyer and Friend Defend Him Against Trayvon Martin Hoax, While ABC News Soldiers on, Repeating Refuted Claims”;

“First Report on Trayvon Martin’s Death One Month Ago Already Included Eyewitness Description of Martin Beating George Zimmerman, and Zimmerman Yelling ‘Help Me!’”;

“George Zimmerman: Trayvon Martin was Trying to Murder Me (Orlando Sentinel)”;

“Jesse Jackson Called for Riots on Behalf of Trayvon Martin, and North Miami Beach Senior HS Students Came Through, Ransacking a Walgreen’s”;

“Another ‘Honor Student’: Trayvon Martin was a Thug, Vandal, Burglar, Pothead and/or Drug Dealer, and Had been Suspended from School at Least 3 Times”;

“The Nation of Islam’s New Black Panther Party Offers $10,000 Bounty for the Kidnapping (or Murder?) of George Zimmerman, for Shooting Trayvon Martin”;

“Walter Williams on Profiling and the Trayvon Martin Case”;

“Barack Obama’s Ally, the Genocidal Nation of Islam’s New Black Panther Party, Calls for the Murder of George Zimmerman”;

“Trayvon Martin: Racist Terrorist Rep. Bobby Rush (Race-Chicago/Black Panthers), is Thrown Off House Floor for Donning a Hoodie, and Denouncing ‘Racial Profiling’; CBS ‘News’ Soldiers on with Race Hoax”;

“Heather MacDonald Goes Halfway on the Trayvon Martin Case, Race, and the Media”;

“I Guess Everybody Would Have Preferred George be Beaten to Death; My Son being Shot”: Video of George Zimmerman’s Father’s Exclusive Miami Herald Interview”;

“Trayvon Martin FAQ”;

“Elderly Couple Terrorized by Spike Lee Hires Attorney; Lee Simulates Humility and Humanity, in Order to Avoid Losing Millions in Court”;

“Vichycon David Frum to MSM: I’ll Support Your Trayvon Martin Hoax, if You’ll Continue Supporting Me as a ‘Conservative’”;

“Cartoonist Stephanie Eisner Gets Fired for Excessive Honesty in Racial Fairy Tale Pic Depicting Trayvon Martin Hoax”;

“Petition Demands That Suppressed UT Cartoonist Stephanie Eisner, Victim of the Racist Trayvon Martin Witch Hunt, be Reinstated!”;

“Sherlock Holmes on the Curious Case of Trayvon Martin, the State of the Legal Mechanisms in ‘the Colonies,’ and the Value of Even a Corrupt Press”;

“A Washington State Reader Writes on the Trayvon Martin Hoax, a Raceless Shooter, Readers Who Do Reporters’ Work for Them, and Seattle’s Northgate Mall”;

“Relative of George Zimmerman: George Stepped Up for Black Homeless Beating Victim Sherman Ware, When the Black Community Ignored Ware, but the Same Black Community, Including Ware’s Sister, Now Denounces Him as a ‘Racist’”;

“The Orlando Sentinel Provides a Non-Explanatory Map of the Shooting of Trayvon Martin, Highly Censored Comments, and One Typical, Black Racist Post”;

“Racist, Black L.A. Times Columnist Sandy Banks Goes to Plan B: Trayvon Martin Case ‘Transcends the issue of race’”;

“George Zimmerman's Father: My Son is Not Racist, Did Not Confront Trayvon Martin”;

“Populist Outrage, or Racist Astroturfing? New NPR Cover Story for Trayvon Martin Hoax Lawyer Covers Up How He Really Works”;

“Federale on Trayvon Martin and the Second Amendment: Gun Nuts Looking to Trade Freedom for Security on Race Will Find They Lose Their Guns, in the Bargain”;

And Then They Came for John Derbyshire: Racial Socialists Organize High-Tech Lynching Over Trayvon Martin Column, with White “Conservatives” Begging, ‘Please Let Us Join in the Fun!’;

“Kapo Con Rich Lowry Fires John Derbyshire, Continues No Comments Policy at National Review.”;

The Atlantic, Trayvon Martin, and John Derbyshire: Fake “Discussion Thread” for Ta-Nehisi Coates is a Rigged, Affirmative Action Echo Chamber”;

“Is Peter Brimelow Next on Racial Socialists’ list, or was He Just Temporarily Bumped?”;

“At National Review, Mark Steyn Tells Rich Lowry, ‘You were Wrong and Hypocritical to Fire John Derbyshire, and You Bought Yourself No Peace from the Racist Left’”;

“6 Shots Fired into Police Cruiser Parked Outside of George Zimmerman’s Home, Presumably by Racist Black Supporter of Trayvon Martin; 3 Florida Counties Expect Hurricane-Like Black Race Riots”;

“Did Trayvon Martin Supporters Re-Program a Roadside Sign in Michigan to Call Martin a ‘Nigger’?”;

“George Zimmerman's (Former?) Attorney, Hal Uhrig, Explains Why Zimmerman was Not Guilty of Committing Any Crime Against Trayvon Martin”;

“George Zimmerman to be Charged Today, in Trayvon Martin Case; Should He Flee the Country?”;

“George Zimmerman, Political Prisoner: Florida Special Prosecutor Angela Corey Charges Zimmerman with Second Degree Murder for Killing Trayvon Martin”;

Unamusement Park: To Kill a Mockingbird, er, NO_LIMIT_NIGGA: Authorities Arrest “an Honorary Member of the Same Race as Hitler;

“Illinois Reader Called for George Zimmerman to Flee to Peru Back on March 23; I Should Have Posted His Advice Then!”;

“Paul Mulshine: National Review Goes Politically Correct”;

“Grieving Parents with a Thirst for Justice, or Racist Grifters? Trayvon Martin’s Parents are Using to Mass Mail Letters, as Part of Their Campaign to Get Rich Off of Their Thug Son’s Death”;

“Special Prosecutor Angela Corey Announces the Charges Against George Zimmerman in the Trayvon Martin Death (Video)”;

“Racist Black Time Columnist, ‘Touré,’ Asserts That There Has been a Wave of White-on-Black Violence, but Has no Stats, and Even His Anecdotes”;

“Alan Dershowitz: Facts Stated in Angela Corey’s Affidavit, Charging George Zimmerman with Murder Two, All Support Zimmerman on Self-Defense; Affi ‘Doesn’t Even Make It to Probable Cause,’ and is ‘Irresponsible,’ ‘Unethical’”;

“I'm George Zimmerman! I'm George Zimmerman! I'm George Zimmerman!”;

“Video of George Zimmerman’s First Court Appearance; Formal Arraignment Set for May 29th”; and

“Chief of Staff Michelle Williams of the Genocidal Nation of Islam’s New Black Panther Party Calls for the Murder of George Zimmerman, Then Lies and Denies Having Done So; Makes a Non-Apology; Wants a National ‘Dialogue’ on Race; Sees Herself as a Rosa Parks for Justice”;

“Federale: ‘Threats of Rioting are Not Probable Cause That George Zimmerman Committed a Crime,’ and the Downward Spiral of National Review;

“Trayvon Martin Hate Crime Cover-Up in Grand Rapids, Michigan; Give the Local Media Hell! (Contact Info)”;

National Review Still Employs a Notoriously Noxious Racist!”;

“Nation of Islam Leader, Min. Louis Farrakhan, Threatens Racial Holocaust, if Whites Do Not Surrender”; and

AP’s Suzette Laboy Promotes Racial Fairy Tale of Initial Failure to Charge George Zimmerman ‘Inflaming Racial Tensions’ in Sanford, FL, in Trayvon Martin Hoax.”]



Nicawawa said...

Thanks again for another fast breaking, alert Nicholas! You have the best in- depth coverage of the Zimmerman Railroading on the net.

The police and politicians are obviously cowed by the National Lynch Mob. Any racial motives of black on white attacks or murders will be censored or spun away by a Corrupt Liberal Media. The cop out cops and pols will follow the script too.

Too bad the Republicans are such cowards on the race issue. They grovel before the Race Card as low as any "liberal" does. It would be a win/win for them, all the way to the white house, if they forcibly attacked the racist double standards of the left and didnt back off.

I guess Eric Holder was right about one thing, although for reasons opposite than he was suggesting. We are a Nation of Cowards when it comes to confronting black racism and race hatred.

Anonymous said...

"Corrupt Liberal Media" is about right. As someone pointed a long time ago, the news media used to be "conservative," but after Watergate, all the leftest ninnies decided that they could make their mark on the world, like a dog marking its territory, by becoming "journalists," where they could spin their viewpoint on any social interaction.

"Nation of Cowards?" Only because the only feedback has been through the filter of Black racism and Elitist gun control through the MSM. The Internet has changed the topology of our informational resources. No longer is the NYT, Chicago Tribune and the LAT the sole source of information, pre-filtered for the specific purpose of behavioral conditioning the masses. We can ascertain people's reactions to news stories by commentary on the web. That means the Truth (tm) is making it's way into at least some parts of the body politic, regardless of what the MSM and fellow travelers DON'T report.

Anonymous said...

It has come to the point that white people need their own advocacy industry - white Al Sharptons - to start agitating for justice.

Black Run America has declared open season on white people. said...

That whole thing has a "Blue on Blue" feel to it. Also chasing to shoot is always a dubious self defense case. You can stand your ground, but you cannot necessarily chase someone down in revenge. Anyway, who really cares. This is not nearly as clear cut as the Zimmerman case.

Anonymous said...

"You can stand your ground, but you cannot necessarily chase someone down in revenge. Anyway, who really cares."

Why do you say it's revenge? You are attacked, the attacker runs to a more defensible position to (a) continue the attack from a more advantageous position, (b) perform a flanking maneuver, or (c) wait out the defender. Defender has to the second guess the attacker as to his next move. The Black Thug expected whitey to back off because whitey is supposed to accept being a victim in street combat. The Black Thug guessed wrong.

Now, in NYC whitey's ass would be grass for sure because being a NYC resident means you consent to being injured and maimed by Blacks.

But any logical person knows that maneuver in battle may be the correct assessment in life preservation. Whitey did just that.

Masaad Ayoob I'm sure would cite instances where defenders have been convicted of going out and meeting their attackers, as he has in his American Handgunner columns.

But such is life when you must make instant decisions for your personal longevity.

Dan said...

Fucking hell. It's now got to a point where the polar bear hunt is being backed by the fugging state.

Warlord1958 said...

At least he got the worthless 'groid. One less baby daddy and who knows how many future bridge cards have been avoided.

Jean Paul Valley said...

Unfortunately, the change in posture from defensive to offensive will sink any claims to self-defense. (In battle, anything goes should be the rules of engagement, but Americans aren't that smart in ACTUAL combat, why be that smart when intent is shown? But that's how lawyers and politicians clean up big...)

I wonder what would be the outcome had the white guy shot under the car? Or squeezed off a shot and caught his assailant in the back? I think anything other than being beaten to death at that precise moment is basically seen as, "You should have run away," and that's BEFORE we inject race issues.

I have realized recently, as I come from a second-generation immigrant, Traditional, Conservative, Irish-Italian intact Roman Catholic family: Civilization only works when everyone plays by the same rules. I was "civilized" to almost be a doormat - but the assumption of reciprocity was there, that we were all playing from the same book of rules.
Problem the rest of the world forgot: A civilized man can act like an animal when needed. Might even revel in the freedom and power he's usually denied. But he can then go back into his cage not too much the worse for wear and tear.
The full-time animal knows nothing else - and will flash fang and claw as warnings, so we even know what to expect. He cannot act as a civilized man.

When enough "civilized" men get their fill - it will be bad for the full-time animals. Discipline and range trump numbers and brute force, which will mean LOTS of dark meat following any attack.

Anonymous said...

"change in posture from defensive to offensive will sink any claims to self-defense."

I'm not so sure; an armed dude that started a gun fight which he was unprepared because whitey had a gun is a DEFCON 1 condition for everyone in the general vicinity. He is a threat to EVERYONE, so I say whitey was performing a community service as a member of the unorganized militia.

"I wonder what would be the outcome had the white guy shot under the car? Or squeezed off a shot and caught his assailant in the back?

These come under the heading "What would a cop do?" I assert that a member of the unorganized militia, like George Zimmerman, has every right to engage in a gun battle with an immediate threat to public safety. Or have we ceded our basic rights to community defense to the police? I have yet to hear of any law that REMOVES this American heritage.