By Jerry PDX
saturday, may 13, 2023 at 1:40:00 a.m. edt
Listen, as Sam Seder with his “majority” report cohorts downplay Jordan Neely’s threats:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSD9zSqwaQw
Now Seder hedges a little by saying based on initial reports and it’s not “clear” that Neely was being violent and threatening but then spends the rest of the episode trying to make Neely sound harmless and Penny sound evil. If you’ve never listened to Sam Seder and mr, then this gives you a pretty good snapshot, they are as Woke as they come and Whites are always in the wrong, and blacks always in the right. I’ve also been listening to opb, democracy now, and various other far-left broadcasters, and they are all following the same [dnc] script: Neely was yelling harmless words and was a good boy who just had some mental issues (with a suggestion racism made him that way), and the White man violently overreacted (possibly because he’s a racist). The ones that acknowledge he may have yelled some threats still downplay them because he didn’t actually hit anyone or brandish a weapon, so Penny still overreacted, using a lethal submission hold on him.
He definitely did make violent threats, though:
https://thepostmillennial.com/witness-says-jordan-neely-started-making-death-threats-against-passengers-before-daniel-penny-engaged-him
At what point do verbal threats cross a certain line, anyways? Here is some legal reasoning:
https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/verbal-threats-as-assault.html
But what’s really bugging me is this...Aren’t we being subjected to a barrage of complaints from blacks, sex psychos of all kinds or alien invaders, how any kind of words they deem offensive are threatening? They’ve even created definitions like “micro aggressions” that make just about anything a White says sound threatening. Isn’t that why they have “safe spaces,” so they can escape from those evil, threatening Whites?
This is what we’ve come to, as Whites, in today’s bizarro world of racial politics: even innocuous things you say can subjectively be defined as threatening but an aggressive negro yelling death threats is considered “harmless.”
By anon (Eahilf)
saturday, may 13, 2023 at 3:38:00 a.m. edt
“Listen as Sam Seder with his ‘majority’ report cohorts downplay Jordan Neely's threats”:
Uhh, OK. (((Sam Seder))).
“He definitely did make violent threats, though”:
tpm quotes a female witness speaking *anonymously* to the nypost. Will people like her be willing to appear in court and testify? You cannot do that anonymously.
From tpm:
“Penny was subsequently charged with second-degree manslaughter and could face up to fifteen years in prison if convicted.”
https://newyork.public.law/laws/n.y._penal_law_section_125.15
“new york penal law
sec. 125.15
manslaughter in the second degree
§125.15 manslaughter in the second degree. a person is guilty of manslaughter in the second degree when:
1. He recklessly causes the death of another person; or ...
manslaughter in the second degree is a class c felony.”
Max penalty for a class c felony is 15 years:
https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/70.00
What *exactly* does “recklessly causes the death of another person” mean? There is probably precedent (examples) in ny state about that. Per precedent, was Penny being
“reckless”? No reasonable person would conclude that.
It’s clearly a disgusting, malicious prosecution. But the key questions are how the prosecution will frame it in the context of ny law and precedent, how a judge will instruct the jury, i.e., what alternatives he will give them, and how a jury will react?
One thing for sure: Hochul will not be offering to pardon Daniel Penny the way Abbott offered to pardon Daniel Perry (interesting similarity of names).
https://www.revolver.news/2023/05/black-activist-judge-throws-the-book-at-texas-uber-driver-who-shot-and-killed-armed-and-dangerous-blm-instigator/
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jerry pdx
Some may wonder why I listen to the likes of Seder and MR, plus NPR and other left wing ideologues, but it's because I want to know how they think and the kind of reasoning they use to justify themselves. It can be quite surreal listening to these people, they seem to lack some basic humanity or any kind of soul to give them a moral compass, everything in their world is about pleasing anybody that doesn't fall under the category of White male and doing everything they can to denigrate said White male. Even though a lot of them are White males!
I do also turn the dial to AM radio stations and listen to conservative talk radio for some balance. It helps, a little.
I hear enough woke stuff already.As Scotty used to say on "Star Trek", "The engines can't handle anymore,Captain.
If you keep this speed up,they're gonna blow."
--GRA
Yes,pretty much the same reason I eat(and regurgitate)my supper listening to nnn or Sunday breakfast with "Face(the Commie)Nation".I'm always amazed at what I hear--and how far from reality they are--and also how bad a shape our country is in because of shows like "The View" and the ones I mentioned.
--GRA
An example of someone convicted of second degree manslaughter:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/nypd-officer-peter-liang-guilty-second-degree-manslaughter-akai-gurley-n516796
"NYPD Police Commissioner William Bratton said at the time of the shooting that the fatal shot "appears to be an accidental discharge" of Liang's gun."
So at the time it was claimed the cop fired his gun by accident - ? - it is reasonable to ask how that could happen.
Some evidence it was talked about as accidental on scene:
[They also asked to listen to the police radio transmissions after the shooting and a 911 call made by Melissa Lopez, a fifth-floor resident. On the tape of the radio transmissions — a number of which were garbled — an officer can be heard saying the words “Pink Post One,” referring to Liang’s post at the Pink Houses, and “accidental discharge.” According to prosecution court documents, the officers waited nearly 20 minutes before radioing in an “accidental fire.”]
Seems to be two events: 1) real-time radio chatter, and 2) the official report (cover story?) of an accidental discharge 20m later.
Also:
"On Monday, Liang testified in his own defense that his finger was on the side of weapon and not on the trigger when he took it out."
He admitted to unholstering his weapon. Why? Was there some threat?
Blah blah. Who knows? End result is he was convicted and fired.
There is a Wikipedia page about the case:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Akai_Gurley
There you learn the victim "moved to New York as a child" from the Virgin Islands. Yes, what does the US need more than another useless low IQ black male? There is no mention of him having a job. That's weird, right? Normally you would expect to see something about the person's education, career, etc. Of course none of that applies to niggers. They are ineducable and far more likely to not have a regular job, let alone a career. George Floyd was a prime example of this: crime, drug abuse, irregular menial employment.
The victim had a criminal record (surprise):
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2844570/NYPD-rookie-officer-shot-innocent-unarmed-father-dead-Brooklyn-stairwell-accident-girlfriend-watched-horror.html
Black victim, black DA:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2844570/NYPD-rookie-officer-shot-innocent-unarmed-father-dead-Brooklyn-stairwell-accident-girlfriend-watched-horror.html
Note the foto in the NBC story:
"Asian-American groups march in support of Akai Gurley, an unarmed 28-year-old father who was shot and killed by NYPD Officer Peter Liang in November, 2014."
So "Asian-Americans" wanted to see the Asian cop convicted for shooting and killing a black male, maybe accidentally maybe not ("who knows"), but odds favor it being unintentional.
America is a bizarre racial shit show. Useless nigger criminals are fetishized by scum politicians and their equally scummy media accomplices, to the point weak-minded lemmings of all races go along with the obvious absurdity of it.
Ghetto lottery:
"n August 2016, New York City reached an agreement with Gurley's family for $4.1 million"
Anyway, given the weasel word "reckless" in the statute, Penny has reason to worry. Because while there may be precedent, in the end it is largely subjective whether you believe someone was "reckless" or not.
What is "reasonable doubt"? What conduct is "reckless"?
Restraining someone who was seen behaving as a threat is not "reckless".
Doing so via a "choke hold" (a scare term the prosecution will make good use of) to the point the person being restrained passes out could be painted as "reckless".
It's basically a replay of floyd,with some differences.A hyper, nutjob black has a fit and a White guy Marine makes the decision to prevent a problem by subduing him.
Unknown:toxicology--recent and past drug use of negro and how it may have played a role in his death.
Known:Visuals.It LOOKS like neely died,just as floyd appeared to die,because of a White man's intervention.
Variables:Visuals don't always tell the truth.
Medical examiner:Ruled both floyd and neely died due to homicide.
The only defense in Penny's case is self defense,which is where the two cases of the black thugs vs White enforcement figures are different.floyd was already in the early stages of cardiac arrest in the police cruiser--mania induced.
Neely,may have been as manic as floyd,caused by drugs or other causes,speeding up or causing his demise. What other reasons could have contributed to his death?
Not much information is being released about all these questions.Still,Penny--like Chauvin and company--for being in the wrong place at the wrong time--with the wrong outcome--should not have to face prison for an incident that two hours earlier,he would never have guessed would have occurred that later that day.
That is not right--in Chauvin's case nor in Penny's.
--GRA
It was not merely the words uttered by Neely. It was in addition the erratic behavior. Could reasonably scare anyone.
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