By Prince George's County Ex-Pat
mon, apr 17, 2023 11:18 p.m.
"court upholds murder conviction for officer who killed George Floyd"
https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/court-upholds-murder-conviction-for-officer-that-killed-george-floyd-police-brutality-black-lives-matter-i-cant-breathe-eight-minutes-forty-six-seconds-fair-trial-due-process-appeals-derek-chauvin-keith-ellison-evidence-guilt-second-degree-murder
“I can’t breathe,” said the decedent as he sat upright in the back seat of the police vehicle, well before he was on the pavement.
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The number one fact that was ignored was floyd,saying in the cop car,"I can't breathe."
IN THE CAR!
So how did Chauvin kill him?
--GRA
Even before he was in the back of the car. I saw the video with the audio. Guy had heart failure that is that. No way did Chauvin get a fair trial. Change of venue at a minimum was needed.
You would have to be suicidal or stupid to be want to be a policeman or a military man these days. If you do your job you are in danger of spending the rest of your life in prison. In the military they have rules of engagement which put their lives at risk and they are at risk of being prosecuted ruthlessly if there is any doubt about their actions. And of course they were injected with the clot shot--who knows what will happen to them in the long run--and who knows what idiocy they will be subjected to next. Finally, the political correctness will make their lives frustrating at the very least. I guess what many police will do is the minimum--they will avoid doing anything controversial--like arresting black criminals.
I rechecked the floyd video and his quote,as three cops tried to push him in the backseat was,"I can't choke,I mean I can't breathe--I'm claustrophobic."
He repeated this often.
So "I can't breathe" didn't mean anything different to floyd in the cop car or on the ground.He was having a panic attack over being arrested.He was not "claustrophobic" about cars--as he had driven to the party store(where he dropped a counterfeit bill)as a passenger.
It was strictly the arrest that made him hyperventilate.It would have been interesting to see how long it would have taken for floyd to drop dead,if the cops had just continued with the struggle to put him in the cruiser.
I think it would have been the same--or faster--because of the effort involved.
Keith Ellison has basically committed murder on Derek Chauvin-- taking his life away over a medical emergency death--which would have occurred whether floyd was on the ground or fighting to stay out of the police vehicle.
--GRA
You would have to be suicidal or stupid to be want to be a policeman or a military man these days"
100 % correct. And if a cop on the job preserve your dignity and sanity if you are an officer in a major city where the "predominant" population is "minority" and get the hell away from the place.
I know for many vested in a pension that is hard to do and I understand that to be so. Your sanity more important however for you and your famblee? Go somewhere else where your skills will be appreciated.
"He repeated this often."
Yeah he did.
Chauvin does not deserve to be in jail. Vindictive anti-white racial politics is the main reason he's in jail. The cowardice of authorities and the dishonest malevolence of the media are both to blame for this.
One can say the above and still be honest about what generally happened as seen on video.
The reason it was possible to charge Chauvin at all is that when Floyd was on the ground with Chauvin's knee on his neck Floyd again claimed to be in distress. Chauvin and the cops restraining him did not seem to react, maybe b/c Floyd complained before and they were worried he was faking it so they would stop restraining him. Later when it seemed fairly clear Floyd *was* in distress and had become unresponsive, the cops restraining him still did not react, which agitated bystanders.
So it was possible to charge Chauvin b/c he seemed to ignore Floyd's genuine distress, even after it appeared Floyd was unresponsive and unconscious.
The fact Floyd was bizarrely complaining of being unwell *long before he was restrained on the ground* may explain why the cops did not take Floyd's complaints seriously when he was on the ground. But it is not really a very good explanation of why they did not react when it became clear Floyd was unresponsive and so his distress was now real.
Considering the entirety of the circumstances, including the toxicology report showing Floyd's drug abuse, the autopsy report showing his contributing health conditions and that he did not die of asphyxiation, as well as the fact he was a big powerful man who resisted arrest and posed a threat to all the cops there, firing Chauvin and disciplining the other cops on scene for basically ignoring Floyd's distress after he fell unconscious would not have been an unreasonable outcome.
But this case was never about the entirety of the circumstances.
Similarly, Americans are not allowed to make a demographic argument about the aggregate effect of the black population. That's racist.
I believe an ambulance was called at some point to aid Floyd.That was their job.Mouth to mouth on a drug addicted black is not.He was on the ground mumbling for 6 minutes if I remember correctly.That he survived that long after the fit he unleashed in the police cruiser ,was unfortunate for Chauvin.If Floyd had died in the cruiser while complaining about shortness of breath--no charges would have been filed.The optics afterwards made it look worse for the cops,but floyd's demise was already in progress by the time he was placed on the ground.
Firing would be unwarranted in my opinion as well,if we were being honest about WHAT killed him--which was already underway in the cop car.
--GRA
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