Wednesday, September 26, 2012

Tenured Leftist Ian Goldin: I Want to Destroy White Countries Through Mass, Third-World Immigration, and to That End, No Lie is Too Outrageous for Me to Tell

Posted by Nicholas Stix

Note that when Goldin says he wants mass Third World immigration in the “developed nations,” he means only white ones, not China, Singapore, Japan, South Korea, etc. Note too that Time magazine was founded by ardent anti-Communist Henry Luce.


What If Rich Countries Shut the Door on Immigration?
They would start to look like North Korea, says an Oxford professor
By World Economic Forum
September 20, 2012
123 Comments [Read the comments; they’re excellent; many readers display both a better grasp of economic reality and greater intellectual integrity than Goldin]
Time

FILIPPO MONTEFORTE / AFP / Getty Images
Migrants who arrived in the port of the Italian island of Lampedusa wait to be transferred by the military to a reception center inland. Italy and France agreed in April of 2011 to carry out joint patrols along Tunisia's coast to block migrants headed for Europe, with the French interior minister saying there was no duty to take in so-called boat people.

This is a “what if” interview from the World Economic Forum’s Risk Response Network. To view the rest of the series, click here.

Amid a global recession, catastrophic rates of unemployment in developed [N.S.: The writer means Western; “developed” is Marxist jargon] countries and a rising tide of xenophobia [more Marxist bull], the World Economic Forum, in collaboration with TIME, speaks with Ian Goldin, director of the Oxford Martin School and a professor of globalization and development [Ha! This guy specializes in turning back the clock to the Iron Age] at the University of Oxford, about the likelihood of anti-immigrant policies coming to the fore. Goldin warns that such policies would not only harm communities the world over, but be counterproductive.

Are we in the throes of a global backlash against immigration?

We’re seeing an increasing focus on immigration in response to the severe economic crisis, rising unemployment and falling living standards. [Much of which is due to mass Third World immigration.] As has happened throughout history, there’s a tendency to blame immigrants for these problems. Politically, it’s an easy option, but it’s never worked out too well as a strategy. [Bull.]

And there are clear signs of this?

In the worst case, there has been a wave of physical attacks on immigrants in Greece this year, with people being beaten up or stabbed just because of the way they look. [Liar. They are being attacked because they are known illegal aliens.] On the political level, there are also very real examples of anti-immigration policies. In the U.K., the government has put dramatic caps on migration, which are making it hard to hire skilled workers. [Ridiculous. As if there were a lakc of skilled workers.] It’s so difficult to get a visa now that I’m finding that people from, say, China or South Africa are no longer willing to come to academic conferences here. [Is this a criticism of the policy, or a compliment?] In Spain, immigrants are offered lump-sum payments to go home. [Well, that’s no good. They should simply be deported, and if anything, their nations charged a fee for the deportation and other Spanish services the aliens exploited .] In the recent French elections, the far-right National Front campaigned heavily against migration and won almost a fifth of the votes. In the U.S., immigration is a hot topic ahead of the elections, although what’s interesting there is that since Latinos are such a significant voting force it changes the dynamic.

[Immigration has been completely ignored by the candidates and the media, and eligible Hispanic voters are a completely insignificant voting force. You couldn’t trust this mook to give you the correct time of day!]

What would have to happen for a government to really shut the door?

If rich countries were really going to shut the door on immigration, they would need to stop international flights [lie], block their ports [lie], end tourism [lie] and brace themselves for a rapid contraction in GDP [lie]. Far from seeing unemployment fall, it would rise: companies would fail as they lose staff and management, and demand would fall. Ironically, we would expect to see a higher number of illegal immigrants. [That is neither ironic nor true.] In the U.S., whenever the government has taken a tougher line on immigration-law enforcement, the number of Mexicans living there illegally has actually risen. [Lie.] This makes sense when you consider that, if you know you’re not going to be allowed back into a country, you’re going to stay, rather than leave when the jobs dry up.

Who would feel the impact the most?

Migrants to start with: the legal ones before the illegal ones. Then everyone else. So many industries — from agriculture to health care to construction to technology to tourism — depend on migrant workers. [I give up.] Hospitals would close as they lose cleaners and heart surgeons alike. Women who depend on [illegal alien] foreign nannies to go out to work would suffer. [Perish the thought! American women raising their own children!] There would also be a very damaging impact on the migrants’ home countries: in many developing countries, it is striking that the financial support from expatriate remittances well exceeds foreign aid — yet this vital assistance would dry up. [Again, is that a criticism or a compliment?]

What would the broader consequences be?

As well as the ethical implications and the loss of cultural diversity, locking out immigrants would fundamentally undermine the competitiveness of developed economies. [You have to understand that this guy embraces evil, so that for him any policy that increases the ability of white nations to survive is ethically dire. How would losing “cultural diversity” be bad?] Immigrants are a self-selecting group: they’re the risk takers, the ones who are ready to make a massive sacrifice. It takes a lot of bravery to become an outsider, which makes migrants a great source of dynamism. [But aliens are politically privileged in all white nations; thus, they are not brave or dynamic, as opposed to destructive. And the kind he champions only take, and have nothing to offer.] If you look at the U.S., more than half the start-ups in Silicon Valley are founded by migrants, as well as many of the most iconic firms — Apple, Google, Yahoo, PayPal. Migrants account for more than three times as many Nobel laureates and Academy Award film directors as native-born Americans. Developed countries can’t afford to lose them.

[This guy is a complete sophist. He’s promoting the immigration of low-IQ, high crime, hostiles, who are the opposite of the sort of people who found firms.]

What would a society without immigration feel like?

It would be like living in North Korea.

[So, America between 1924 and 1965 was like today’s North Korea? This is clearly a man who has never had to defend his ridiculous talking points, because he lives and works in a racial socialist cocoon, where all dissenting views have been whitelisted as “racist,” etc.]

What’s the best way to prevent a backlash against migration?

I’m not politically naive. I’m not recommending open borders [Yes, you are!], though that might be an ideal to work toward, just as we have with free-trade negotiations over a period of around 50 years. For now, the first thing is to recognize that migration has not been managed well enough. Migrants bring with them short-term, local costs, whereas the benefits are society-wide and long term, so there is a mismatch. [What might those benefits be? I am not aware of any.] Whether we’re talking about Lampedusa, the island off the coast of Italy that is the first port of call for refugees from Tunisia, or Slough, a British town with a large migrant population, local people understandably feel [“feel”] that immigration is a burden. It’s a national issue that needs to be managed on the national level.

Second, leaders need to be more honest. What’s depressing about the current status quo is that there’s no empirical evidence to support this view that immigrants take people’s jobs [tell that to Ed Rubenstein and George Borjas; this guy is shameless], swallow up resources and are a drag on the economy. But the myth is propagated, despite the fact that, depending on how far you go back, we’re all immigrants [apparently he’s not on speaking terms with the English language]. In Britain, Queen Victoria grew up speaking German, and somehow she still came to be seen as this symbol of Britishness. [Tea, China?] We create huge myths all the time, instead of focusing on the facts. [Excuse me?] For example, if rich countries were to admit enough migrants from poor countries to expand their own labor forces by just 3%, the world would be richer, according to one estimate, by $356 billion a year. [He just pulled that number out his ass.] Toronto is made up of 50% immigrants, and it’s consistently ranked as one of the best cities to live in the world. We need more data, and less hearsay. [Toronto was considered one of the world’s loveliest cities when it was lily-white. Since it became overrun with violent Third Worlders who shoot up shopping malls, it is considered a multicultural hell-hole.]

Is this something that’s important to you personally?

Migration has always been a way to escape famine, poverty and persecution. Without migration, I wouldn’t be here, both in the specific sense, as a South African living in England, and in the most literal one. [So, why did you leave the “Rainbow Nation”?] If they hadn’t been able to leave Austria, my family would have been killed by the Nazis.

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3 comments:

Anonymous said...

This fool Goldin ought to go into any black area and ask the teenagers if they were able to obtain ANY summer jobs. Then the nitwit would be able to see the results of his foreign laborer advocacy on US citizens.

Anonymous said...

His interest is not only to destroy whites...he knows that once blacks and browns destroy whites, blacks and browns will proceed to destroy each other...
And why doesnt Goldin talk about Israel?...they are deporting tens of thousands of illegal Africans ,en masse, as we speak...

Anonymous said...

Sorry, a few questions.

1. Do you know anything about this man? Here are a few simple facts: he is South African, he is completely non-religious, he is less attached to Israel than 75% of Americans, he was a member of the ANC during the struggle, exiled during the struggle, and became one of President Mandela's economic advisers in 1995.

2. It would be irrelevant for Goldin to address Israel's treatment of immigrants. He is talking about why migration is necessary for growth, not examples where countries have opposed it.

3. Are you blaming unemployment on migration? I believe if you read more closely you will notice Goldin's demonstration of how migration has facilitated economic growth, which in turn increases employment opportunities.
The growth of xenophobia, nationalism, and exclusionism as exemplified on this website will always be a symptom of economic recession and growing unemployment. It's fucking balls, but it's not the fault of immigrants.

4. Why have you assumed Goldin's use of "developed" means "white"..? Ridiculous. What do you actually mean by this? I don't think China and Singapore are even classified as "developed" - BRICS are special area within the classification of "developed" and "developing" and Singapore is odd because it's so small.

5. Please check the facts when you write that something is a lie or bull. While on Wikipedia, check out what a "sophist" is because it doesn't make sense in this context. It's also not a defensive description...

6. What industries do not depend on migrants? Please pay attention to Goldin's example relating to Silicon Valley. We would not have internet without them!!! No blogger.com, etc, not to mention the millions of dollars raised in corporate and private tax revenue annually that goes straight to the public purse.

7. When you suggest there's nothing wrong with women not having the opportunity to leave the home, you are demonstrating that you are backward and sexist. Please reassess your opinion on "equality" if you believe in it at all.

8. How are immigrants "politically privileged"?

9. There was definitely immigration into the US in the years 1924-64. Sorry.

10. The majority of South African farmers during Apartheid were white. It's actually become extremely unclear whether you are a white or black supremacist. Either way there has been no genocide of South African farmers. That is a high number, but it is not atypical considering the number of murders committed in South Africa. I myself am South African. There are many farmers, white and black, who have been killed; farmers are particularly unprotected and liable to crime.
Not only does genocide need to target a particular ethnic group (which it does not here), but it also needs a higher number to constitute genocide.


Genuinely stopped reading because the content of your essay demonstrates a lack of openness to another, interesting view. Please reread Goldin's article and consider whether it is logically coherent, while checking that any factual objections you believe are true.

Many thanks,


Anonymous.