By N.S.
See, boys and girls? This is how you keep your murders down!
“This month, Dr Greenberg [her father] claimed Ellen’s autopsy report said she suffered a huge laceration in the back of her head and that she was covered in bruises in different stages of healing.
“‘That’s what I think the whole issue of this story,’ he told fox news digital. ‘somebody didn’t want Ellen’s abuse to get out there … and that’s why she’s dead.’
“Ellen’s death was initially ruled a homicide but the medical examiner’s office then changed it to suicide after a meeting with police and prosecutors, per her family.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12258959/Family-Ellen-Greenberg-stabbed-20-times-suicide-demand-Philadelphia-mayor-reopen-case.html
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jerry pdx
Hard to believe anyone could take the pain of stabbing themselves 20 times, especially a girly girl type. I thought women preferred pills as a method of suicide. I guess it's theoretically possible but I get why the parents can't accept it. A couple of reasons why they ruled it was suicide was because the door was locked from the inside with a swing lock and there were no signs of any kind of forced entry. Other than that, details are kind of sparse though I spotted a comment where someone claimed you can rig a swing lock to lock from the outside. I don't know about that, somebody just wrote it. Don't know the layout of the apartment, maybe there were windows somebody could have gotten out of? Also, they could find no dna at the crime scene which is tough to do when stabbing somebody 20 times. Still possible for someone who has prepared carefully, so premeditation seems likely if it is a murder. Makes the fiance more of a suspect if that's the case, doubtful some random cat burglar could have pulled it off, though maybe a crafty enough serial killer. Could they have tracked a suspect down using surveillance cameras in the area a'la Kohberger? Maybe cops just decided it was suicide and didn't go through the effort? I don't know, just thinking out loud but strange case indeed.
I say this naively,but do medical examiners answer to anyone?In a corrupt setup,which permeates black government and specifically in Minnesota,where Keith Ellison made it clear he wanted Chauvin and company convicted,how does anyone really know if the coroners are honest in their evaluations of cause of death?It isn't just the black police chiefs you can't trust or das--how about Andrew Baker ignoring the obvious:floyd had a ticker ready to go with any strenuous movement and hysteria(as in the cop car).
How do we know that Baker didn't bend over after orders from Ellison to give a homicide ruling?Wasn't there a witness brought in who ruled floyd had died of a heart weakened by drug use?A lot of power in that one office.
As far as oversight--dont make me laugh.All it would take are a few threats from Ellison to put the kibosh on that.-
--GRA
A story about this said her boyfriend was the one who found her and he had to break down her door to do it. It was locked.
https://www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia/ellen-greenberg-suicide-homicide-civil-trial-appeal-20221115.html
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Ellen Greenberg, 27, a first-grade teacher, was found by her fiancé, Samuel Goldberg, in the kitchen of their Manayunk apartment with 20 stab wounds and a 10-inch knife lodged in her chest on Jan. 26, 2011.
Investigators on scene treated her death as a suicide because the apartment door — which Goldberg said he broke down — was locked from the inside, there were no signs of an intruder, and Greenberg had no defensive wounds, police have said.
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"Goldberg said"
"Greenberg had no defensive wounds"
She could have been knocked out before the stabbing started.
Still seems like a brutal way to kill a woman he was said to be in live with. But it does happen. Jealousy maybe?
Very very weird story. The stabbing herself to death stuff does not make sense. Hard to believe there has ever been another case like it??
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