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Monday, June 18, 2012

Declining Murder Stats: A Reader Writes with a Novel Theory

 
[Previously:

“From Compstat to Fakestat: The Epidemic Of Fraudulent Official Crime Reports.”]

Mr. Stix,

A friend is an ER physician of many decades in experience. She says one reason murder rates have gone down is that the ER is much better at saving people.

I am sorry but I don't have a reference to stats on that.

J.D.

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

That's partially true. Compared to the same injuries being treated in an ER even a couple of decades ago, I am sure the newer techniques and better equipment have saved many lives.

As I have said, what you said is partially true--and just a small portion at that.

Most crime statistics are manipulated for a variety of reasons, especially political correctness but hardly limited to that.

All that is necessary to prove the reality of what I say is to either find out the safe way by going to websites which try to decipher the true crime rates by various means....

or, there is the bold and suicidal method of traveling around the country and going to the mean streets and seeing reality in 3D.

A while back I traveled from San Diego to NYC on the Greyhound bus to survey the situation the hard way, with no way of avoiding the bad areas of every town along the way. I took a northern route to NY and a a southern route on the way back. I got out at every stop and took a stroll around wherever I ended up. Wow!


I know most people would never dare do what I did if they had any choice but I needed to see things for myself, in a way a plane trip can't portray. While I always knew things were bad I never knew just how bad they really were until I made those trips--and it's bad, very, very bad.

There is no possible way that crimes of any kind have slowed down, no way.

countenance said...

I've heard this for a long time, and it's probably true. This means that the crime stat to look at is aggravated assault or assault with a deadly weapon.

Anonymous said...

Makes sense.

Every state in the Union has one or more shock truama centers.

Plus there is better training of EMTs and paramedics.

And don't forget that extremely injured patients are now flown in a matter of minutes to the nearest shock trauma center, e.g., Baltimore, where it all started.

Anonymous said...

On the other hand, sentencing guidelines are stricter than they used to be. There are more people (the usual suspects especially) locked up for a longer period. This would lower the crime rate to an extent.

Back in the 90's, a New York Times reporter, Fox Butterfield, railed that "since crime rates are down, why are so many people locked up?"

He was too stupid to realize that locking up more violent criminals makes it safer for ordinary citizens.

David In TN

Anonymous said...

I grew up in the Troutdale area, it was nice then, peaceful crime free, now thanks to section 8 housing a large population of blacks have moved in. Drug dealing, increased sex crimes, regular racially motivated violent assaults along bus lines serving the area. I stay away from parks in the area in evenings that you used to be able to walk through safely even at night. Sad.
No mention of race in the media re this flash mob.



http://www.kptv.com/story/18813048/teen-mob-flash-robs-albertsons-store

Anonymous said...

The US Military trains it's doctors in treating wounds received in combat by soldiers by placing it's doctors on temporary duty at ERs in cities such as Miami, Detroit, Chicago, La, etc.

To me this suggest that we here in the US are at war. It's just that the combatants have not been identified as such.