"perv pushes woman to the ground and tries to rape her inside prospect park: cops
"the 27-year-old woman was walking inside the greenspace, near dog beach and fallkill falls around 9:15 p.m. monday when a stranger came up to her from behind and lifted up..."
I wrote about this development many years ago.
https://nypost.com/2023/06/23/nyc-perv-pushes-woman-to-the-ground-in-attempted-rape-at-prospect-park-cops/
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jerry pdx
Transgender boxer scores 3rd victory in boxing ring but that does not mean it's OK to allow bio men to compete against bio women: https://www.foxnews.com/sports/transgender-male-boxer-patricio-manuel-picks-up-victory-third-career-fight
This is not a bio man fighting women but a bio woman fighting bio men. I have no problem with that because a bio woman is born with certain physical disadvantages toward men so she is competing up, it's the other way around that is not fair. There are people who will say that's a contradiction but it's not, it's just acknowledging that men and women are different and men have certain physical advantages that need to be accounted for.
Check this guy, er girl, out though, sure looks like a dude, if I ran into him/her on the street, I wouldn't know he was really a woman. I have noticed that bio women do a lot better of a job of looking like real men than vice versa, m to f trannies you can always tell it's really a guy, some look pretty convincing but they can never quite camouflage certain things.
3 victories against bio men is pretty impressive but she is competing in the super featherweight class, in those lighter weight classes the natural male advantage is a little narrower, it's in heavier classes where women really can't compete because men can pack on so much more muscle strength than women. You'll never see a bio woman have any kind of success in the heavyweight class.
Too bizarre to comment on with any seriousness.
--GRA
I mean,Jerry's story.
--GRA
"The 27-year-old was walking inside the park around 9:15 p.m. Monday when a stranger came up..."
GRA:9:15 p.m.That's one problem.Any park near dark IS asking for it. Midnight is worse,3 a.m.--you WILL get raped and killed.
It's not the way it should be,but the way it is.
-GRA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patricio_Manuel
"His father is African American."
Obviously a very masculine appearance.
But as pointed out before, there is lower sexual dimorphism in Blacks than in other races, in the direction of black women looking (and being, i.e. including their behavior) generally more masculine and less feminine. So she probably had a somewhat masculine appearance and manner to start with.
"He began his transition with hormone treatments in 2013, and he had top surgery in Salt Lake City in 2014."
(Note Fox also uses male pronouns. Also in 2013 she was 28 y/o, born in 1985.)
10 years of taking replacement/high levels of testosterone can result in profound bodily changes (masculinization). And testosterone is an anabolic steroid, so combined with regular training it can greatly enhance muscle gain (also bone mass and density).
"in those lighter weight classes the natural male advantage is a little narrower"
Why?
"it's in heavier classes where women really can't compete because men can pack on so much more muscle strength than women"
Why do you imagine there is such a difference depending on weight? That the difference in relative strength between a lighter man and a lighter woman will be less than that between a heavier man and a heavier woman?
I don't see why that should necessarily be so.
Here is a graphic showing measured grip strength of men and women vs age:
https://postimg.cc/QKBnGyxq
Note an average 80 y/o man has significantly more grip strength than an average female of any age, and it is not really all that close.
So the difference in strength between men and women is large.
Just like an average man of a certain age will have LOT more grip strength than an average woman of that same age (look at the graph), an average man of a certain weight will be a lot stronger than the average woman of that same weight. I don't see any reason this effect will differ based on the weight.
Any significant difference in age between an average man and an average woman of some weight may have an impact, especially if the man is older because male testosterone levels and muscle mass declines with age.
jerry pdx
Well, I'm going by the fact that while you might see women in lighter weight classes competing successfully with men, sometimes, you never do in heavier weight classes. Maybe it's due to the fact men just get bigger than women, along with the extra muscle, and if women are as "heavy" as very large men, which they sometimes are, it's due to fat, not muscle. Perhaps I should have included that to keep you from picking nits yet again but my point that bio women simply cannot complete athletically against men in the heavy weight classes remains true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patricio_Manuel
He is 5'6". His record below. 3 opponents so far. All wins.
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/846760
His opponents:
#1 Hugo Aguilar (5'7") only won 1 of 9 fights as a pro, now retired.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/490128
#2 Hieu Huynh has won 1 of 4 fights. Barely 5 ft tall. His loss to Manuel was due to an accidental head butt in the 4th round. He was cut and the referee stopped the fight.
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/1085316
https://archive.is/AX8rk
#3 Alexander Gutierrez (5'5") has 0 wins in only 2 fights.
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/1153948
So perhaps her opponents have been carefully selected.
Just b/c an average 80 y/o man has more grip strength than an avg female of any age does not mean you cannot find e.g. a 25 y/o woman and a 25 y/o man where the woman has more grip strength than the man.
"you might see women in lighter weight classes competing successfully with men"
No, not normally or on average. Regarding boxing, can you name another case?
Anyway, a sample size of one is not really enough evidence to make a general statement about anything. That goes for this case too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patricio_Manuel
Hormones for 10 year, "top surgery" in 2014. How necessary was that? Testosterone will shrink breast tissue.
Very masculine appearance:
https://www.dailydot.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Pat-Manuel-trans-boxer.png
If not for the scars, indistinguishable from a male. If you were to airbrush the scars out, 100% of people would see a male.
So this person looks like an outlier, and was probably quite masculine ("butch") to start.
What does she look like "down there"? Is "bottom surgery" necessary?
Caster Semenya was regarded as female and allowed to compete as a female runner for years, and took many medals away from women.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caster_Semenya
Yet it was clear Semenya was basically a male with undescended testicles and T levels much higher than women but lower than the average man. A congenital anomaly.
Also a very masculine appearance:
https://thepoliticbackend.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/caster-semenya-conqa-sport-e1600621487402.jpg
Could be the same here, who knows.
"but my point that bio women simply cannot complete athletically against men in the heavy weight classes remains true"
No it doesn't "remain true". It's "true" that you made this claim. But it is also "true" that you provide no evidence for it.
Nor did you provide a rationale for why it would necessarily be so that in boxing, at lighter weights the average relative strength difference between men and women would necessarily be less than at heavier weights.
Seems to be just your opinion.
"Perhaps I should have included that to keep you from picking nits"
It is not "nitpicking" to point that it's wrong to make a broad unsupported claim. No evidence. And it is odd that you would describe pointing this out as "nitpicking".
You might be right, who knows? But you provide no evidence and no rationale and so there is no reason to believe you. There is no reason to accept what you say is "true".
You seem to have a classic Dunning–Kruger personality type.
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