Posted at 8:00 a.m., Tuesday, August 22, 2006
Updated at 12:40 p.m., Thursday, August 24, 2006
Last update at 2:58 p.m., Friday, August 25, 2006
I guess the moral of the story is, never disagree with your “best friend” in Hollywood, if you’re the second banana, and he’s the star/producer. Apparently, what Harry Truman said about friendship in Washington, applies to Hollywood, as well: “If you want a friend … get a dog.”
Character actor Bruno Kirby died on August 14 of leukemia at the age of 57, according to an announcement by his wife, actress Lynn Sellers.
Born Bruno Giovanni Quidaciolu, the son of actor Bruce Kirby (who was best known for playing Bassett hound-faced Det. Sgt. Kramer on the original Columbo), and brother of acting coach John Kirby, Kirby also performed early in his career as “Bruce Kirby Jr.”
Kirby had been diagnosed with leukemia only shortly before his death. Sellers asked “that contributions be made in Bruno Kirby's name to The Leukemia & Lymphoma Society at 6033 West Century Blvd., Suite 300, Los Angeles, CA 90045.”
Sellers and Kirby married in 2004; Kirby is also survived by his father, brother, stepmother Roz Kirby, and stepbrother Brad Sullivan.
Bruno Kirby generally played characters who were either working-class, or whose working-class roots were visible in their voices and mannerisms.
Prior to Kirby’s death, millions of people knew his name, but millions more knew his face and his irritating, high-pitched, nasal voice. Now the numbers match much more closely. Last Wednesday, I googled under his name and came up with only 262,000 entries, a paltry number for a contemporary Hollywood actor. As of 6:54 a.m. on April 24, the number was up to 6,300,000. (At the same time, Billy Crystal had 2,010,000 entries.)
Dozens of fans, and people claiming to be friends, relatives and colleagues posted fond remembrances of Kirby both as an actor and as a man, at Web site tributes to him, such as at Entertainment Weekly’s PopWatch. Some posters claimed to have crossed his path, either working with Kirby as theater ushers before his breakthrough, or having later served him in some capacity on a job where he was a customer. The message was always the same: Bruno Kirby was a regular guy, who never stood on ceremony, or tried to make ordinary people feel small.
Of all the memories I read, I found Phil Oropesa’s the most moving.
Mr. Kirby was sheduled to appear on Letterman, shortly after "Good Morning Vietnam" opened. I was trying to make ends meet and moonlighting as a limo driver in New York City. I was assigned to pick up Mr. Kirby at JFK and drive him downtown. His plane was delayed by over two hours due to a fierce snowstorm, even by NYC standards.
Needless to say that he was relieved to find me waiting for him as he stepped of the plane. All the way to the car he kept thanking me for waiting. When I opened the car door for him he asked if it would be OK for him to sit up front with me. I told him it was going to be a long slow drive in the snowstorm and that I would welcome the company. As we were driving away from the Airport, he asked if there was any liquor in the back. I told him there was a bottle of scotch, a bottle of vodka and mixers in the mini-fridge. He climbed through the divider window and came back with the bottle of scotch and two glasses (I know, a very un-PC thing nowadays but a very cool guy thing to do). As we slowly drove through the blizzard into Manhattan, we drank scotch and talked about sports but mostly we talked about me. We talked about what I did for a living, my pregnant wife (our first), living in New York in general and life in the cosmic sense. To this day, looking back at the experience I can only recall him talking about himself just once when he said he was a little nervous about being on the Letterman show because Letterman was so unpredictable. When we arrived at his destination (his mothers apartment)he shook my hand, wished be all the best and gave me a $100 bill "for the baby...".
I drove many "stars" in those two years, but Mr. Kirby is the only one that I look back on with genuine affection. Beyond that one brief meeting I didn't really "know" Mr Kirby. However, from that one experience, I feel "genuine" is the word that describes him best. He will be missed.
By the way Mr. Kirby if you are out there listening, my firstborn is enrolled in NYU studying theater and acting. Maybe a little of you rubbed off on that C note!
Phil Oropesa | Aug 19, 2006 12:55:44PM
In a characteristically humble quote attributed to Kirby at IMDB.com, he said, “I've been very lucky. And in this business, you have to have a certain amount of timing and luck because I know, right now as we're sitting here talking, there's a guy driving a cab in New York City who can put me away.”
Also at IMDB.com, the writer of movie and TV profiles, Gary Brumburgh observed, “Native New Yorker and Italianate Bruno Kirby tended towards assertive, pushy streetwise characters and had a highly distinctive scratchy tenor voice that complimented his slim eyes and droopy puss, often accentuating his deadpan comedic instincts on film and TV.”
By 1991, the then-42-year-old Kirby was one of the hottest character actors in Hollywood.
His first big break came playing the young “Clemenza” in The Godfather, Part II (1974), in the section of the picture in which Robert DeNiro plays the young “Vito Corleone” in New York’s Little Italy. Corleone makes the acquaintance of Clemenza, who takes him to a “friend’s” luxurious home. Except that this is no friendly visit. Corleone finds himself in the middle of a comical burglary, in which Clemenza also enlists an unwitting cop. Clemenza gets Corleone to help him roll up and steal an expensive living room rug.
Kirby made an immediate, indelible impression. And well he had to. “Clemenza,” as played by Richard Castellano (1933-1988), was one of the most beloved characters in The Godfather.
(Castellano was in The Godfather early in a blossoming movie career, but by making extravagant demands of director-screenwriter-producer Francis Ford Coppola for his participation in The Godfather, Part II, he cut that career to the quick. Coppola wrote Castellano out of the picture, and the latter’s career never recovered.)
Before Kirby was in The Godfather, Part II, he had become acquainted with the Reiner family, which led to his greatest successes. In 1972, he had played, ironically, Richard Castellano’s son in the TV show, The Super, about a building superintendent. The Super ran for only one season, but it was produced by a very young Rob Reiner, who was then playing son-in-law, “Mike ‘Meathead’ Stivic,” on All in the Family.
Reiner, the son of Carl Reiner, the legendary writer-producer of The Dick Van Dyke Show, would eventually become, for approximately eight busy years (1984-1992), one of Hollywood’s best directors. (Steve Sailer has speculated that Reiner’s decline as a director has been due to his investing too much of his time and energy in political activism.)
In 1984, Rob Reiner cast Kirby in a small role in Reiner’s first theatrical movie as director, the cult classic rock “mockumentary,” This is Spinal Tap, where Kirby worked with Billy Crystal for the first time.
Most of Kirby’s role, as a Sinatra-obsessed (which Kirby actually was) limo driver, was cut from the movie, but it was added, as part of the extras, to the 2000 DVD version.
Kirby came to the notice of director-screenwriter Barry Levinson, who cast him in 1987’s Good Morning, Vietnam and Tin Men. In Good Morning, Vietnam, Kirby impressed critics and audiences alike, as the humorless heavy, a polka-loving, would-be comedian who maligns the free-spirited DJ-comic played by Robin Williams. (In retrospect, the movie, a simple-minded, pc morality play about a persecuted, saintly, non-conformist, anticipated Patch Adams, but was redeemed by Williams’ brilliant improvisations.)
In 1989, Kirby performed in two more Reiner family pictures. He had a more substantial role in Carl Reiner’s Bert Rigby, You're a Fool (1989), and in Rob Reiner’s When Harry Met Sally, he played the male second banana as the sportswriter-best friend of Billy Crystal’s character. When Harry Met Sally would prove to be one of the greatest romantic comedies ever made, and the high point in the career of everyone involved in the production.
The following year, Kirby had a pivotal comic role in The Freshman, with Marlon Brando and Matthew Broderick.
In 1991, Kirby’s macho role in City Slickers, his second great picture as Crystal’s second banana, was even more substantial than his role in When Harry Met Sally. City Slickers, a dramedy about the mid-life crises of three men (including Daniel Stern) who go on a modern-day cattle drive for yuppies, was a commercial and critical success.
That same year, Kirby also won acclaim on Broadway, replacing Kevin Spacey as the male lead, playing the smallest of small-timers, would-be gangster “Uncle Louie,” in Neil Simon’s memory play, Lost in Yonkers, which had won four Tony awards.
At that point, Kirby’s career was on a trajectory that was leading inexorably to Oscar nominations, and perhaps even a golden statuette.
And then his career tanked.
A couple of years ago, I checked out Kirby’s credits at imdb.com. Following City Slickers, his career took the sort of nosedive typically associated with drugs, alcohol, or a nervous breakdown. But there was nothing wrong with Kirby. And yet, the names of most of the pictures he was in, after City Slickers, were so forgettable – obscure, direct-to-video duds that I had never even heard of – that I instantly forgot them.
The Billy and Bruno Show: Cancelled
During or shortly after the making of City Slickers, Kirby and Crystal had a falling out, and not only would Crystal no longer work with Kirby, but neither would any of the many producers and directors associated with Crystal, or even friends of his friends. As a result, while Kirby continued to work, he was cast in fewer movies, and the ones he was cast in were, well … take a look for yourself:
Golden Gate (1994)? Heavenzapoppin'! (1996)? A Slipping-Down Life (1999)? History Is Made at Night (1999)? One Eyed King (2001)?
Kirby’s career reached its nadir, when he was billed 21st, in a William Baldwin vehicle called, One Eyed King. The act of merely referring to William Baldwin as an “actor” constitutes a felony in 22 states.
While at some Web sites, fans and the occasional reviewer mentioned a break between Kirby and Crystal, details were lacking, and any journalistic dispatches seemed to be lost in pre-Internet newspaper morgues. There was nothing in the New York Times archive, including Times Select.
A cached, anonymous, undated entry at the no-longer-functioning O Inquirer states,
“Kirby was slated to co-star in City Slickers II [1994], but a falling out with producer-star Billy Crystal led to his role being given to weight-gaining Jon Lovitz. The details of the feud have never been spelled out. More recently, Kirby, always stocky, appears to have packed on some weight.” (The "O" in O Inquirer appears to stand for "overweight.")
Finally, I found a USA Today story, dated July 12, 2001. Reporter Susan Wloszczyna interviewed Crystal, along with Julia Roberts, Catherine Zeta-Jones and John Cusack, as part of a press junket for the actors’ just-released movie, America’s Sweethearts. For the set-up, Wloszczyna had asked the performers for their worst junket story.
Wloszczyna: The press has been maybe a little too invasive, I would say, with some of you. But I never really read that much dirt about you, Billy.
Crystal: That's good.
Wloszczyna: The only thing I could come up with is that when you were making City Slickers II, you and Bruno Kirby had a falling out.
Crystal: He wasn't in City Slickers II.
Wloszczyna: Yeah, I know, but there was some reason that he didn't do it. Are you guys still friends?
Crystal: I haven't spoken to him — I think we are. I haven't seen him or spoken to him in a long time.
Wloszczyna: That's the best I could come up with.
Roberts: I've talked to Bruno.
Cusack: I talked to him this morning.
Crystal: This is a perfect situation. We're here to talk about the movie, and you're talking about something personal or whatever it is that happened, I don't know, eight, nine years ago.
Wloszczyna: But it's about the movie, because the subject of the movie is the press and famous people.
Crystal: So now you're my worst junket story.
“I think we are” still friends? With a guy you went from being practically vaudeville partner with, to not seeing or speaking to “in a long time”?
Had it not been for Susan Wloszczyna’s questions, and Crystal’s flustered, transparently dishonest responses, you could wonder: Did Kirby somehow screw up? Was it just one of those things? Or was this a case of a star who let his stardom go to his head, and iced a guy’s career, just because he could?
I guess the moral of the story is, never disagree with your “best friend” in Hollywood, if you’re the second banana, and he’s the star/producer. Apparently, what Harry Truman said about friendship in Washington, applies to Hollywood, as well: “If you want a friend … get a dog.”
Kudos to Susan Wloszczyna for what may seem like a minor attack of journalism. Celebrity interviews, whether of movie or sports stars, are typically the most sycophantic media form, with the journalist displaying an adulation more appropriate to a TV interview with a genocidal dictator whose bodyguards are aiming .357 magnums at the interviewer’s head, from behind the cameras. The only difference is that a big movie star will often have a contractual agreement, rather than .357s, to guarantee that no journalism takes place. (E.g., those notorious, Vanity Fair puff pieces.)
As for Julia Roberts and John Cusack’s statements, a solid source tells me that they were actually mocking Crystal, by acting as though they had had rifts with Kirby, and patched theirs up.
Crystal’s publicist, Craig Bankey, politely declined my interview requests, on behalf of his client.
The writer of a lovely Washington Post/Los Angeles Times obit that ran, oddly enough, without a byline on August 20, got three words more out of Crystal than I did. Crystal called Kirby’s death “a terrible loss.”
In case you think it would have been foolish for Crystal to talk to me, given my animus towards him, you’d be amazed how someone can soften a journalist’s attitude by the magical act of merely talking to him. But anything Billy Crystal could have said to make him look more like a mensch, and less like a career-killing ogre, remains his secret.
Kirby managed to pick up a couple of decent paychecks working on TV movies, and in 1995, Barry Levinson cast him as the guest heavy in the season-ending episode, “Gas Man,” of Levinson’s critically acclaimed show, Homicide: Life on the Street. Levinson, who served as one of the show’s executive producers, also directed the episode.
In “Gas Man,” which first aired on May 5, 1995, Kirby played Victor Helms Sr., a convicted killer (manslaughter?), just paroled after six years in prison, who stalks “Det. Frank Pembleton” (Andre Braugher), the man who had put him away.
With no training or license, Helms, a classic screw-up, had misrepresented himself as a licensed plumber. On a plumbing job, he left a gas pipe disconnected, causing the death of an entire family, from carbon monoxide poisoning. When he was convicted, he swore that he would kill Pembleton, as soon as he was released.
As a fan, “Ken,” recalled in a post at Pop Watch, Kirby “brought his usual edgy borderline humor approach to the role as he stalked one of the detectives night and day.” (Aug 16, 2006 9:39:21 PM)
In a just world, Kirby would have been nominated for an Emmy for that guest turn, but in the fickle world of the Emmys, that too was not to be.
Kirby also gave performances that were noted by public and critics alike in small roles in The Basketball Diaries (1995), Sleepers (1996), and Donnie Brasco (1997).
1997, he co-starred with Paula Cale in Bunny, Bunny: Gilda Radner: A Sort of Romantic Comedy, Alan Zweibel’s autobiographical story about his long friendship with the Saturday Night Live comedienne, who died of ovarian cancer in 1989, at the age of 42.
Kirby’s last performance aired only six weeks before his death, on the satirical HBO series, Entourage. In the episode “Guys and Doll,” he played a neurotic producer who takes to bed, when someone steals his Shrek doll.
While Billy Crystal may have been successful on Broadway last year, in his one-man show, 700 Sundays (for which his wife won a Tony as producer), and has had some high-paying roles in Hollywood A productions, nothing he has done in pictures since cutting Bruno Kirby loose has come remotely close to the quality of When Harry Met Sally or City Slickers. Excepting the shlocky success of Analyze This with Robert DeNiro, and the animated feature Monsters, Inc. (2001), most of Crystal’s post-Kirby pictures have bombed: Mr. Saturday Night, City Slickers II, Forget Paris, Father’s Day, My Giant, Analyze That.
Karma, baby. Or call it the Kirby Curse.
A more prosaic explanation, is that Billy Crystal needs an earthy sidekick, in order to click with audiences, and Bruno Kirby was by far the best such sidekick he ever worked with.
Crystal did excellent work with David Paymer, who played his long-suffering brother in Mr. Saturday Night (1992), and for which the latter was nominated for best supporting actor. But the picture bombed. Paymer is an excellent actor, but due to his face and voice, he specializes in whiny sorts of characters. Crystal and Paymer are a match made in box-office hell.
The closest Crystal came to recapturing the chemistry he had with Kirby was when he did voice work with the similarly earthy John Goodman in Monsters, Inc..
Thus, in wrecking Bruno Kirby’s screen career, Billy Crystal also did irreparable damage to his own. When he cut Kirby loose, he was about 45, and running out of time. Today, at 59, Crystal’s ship has sailed.
Although unlike so many of the posters I’ve cited, we never met, Bruno Kirby also touched me, when I saw him on a mid or late-1990s appearance on The Late Late Show, hosted by the great Tom Snyder.
Among other things, Kirby talked about when he was a little boy living in midtown Manhattan during the mid-1950s. His father, the actor Bruce Kirby, once came home at midnight from work (Bruno didn’t say if it was from an acting or non-acting job), woke up his son, and said, “Buddy, would you like to go see a movie?”
Of course, the little boy said “Yes,” and so the father bundled up his son and took him to a midnight screening in a movie palace, the likes of which New York once teemed with.
As strange as this may sound today, in those days, a man could safely carry his child through late night New York streets to a movie house.
Buddy.
A few years later, when my son was born, thinking of Bruce and Bruno Kirby, one of the first of many nicknames I gave him was “Buddy.”
Thanks for the memories, pal. R.I.P.
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15 comments:
Nice tribute. I had no idea that the limo scene was cut from the theatrical release of "Spinal Tap." I thought I recalled seeing it on VHS in the 90s. I'm almost sure I did.
I always thought Kirby was wasted in "Donnie Brasco." It was a relatively important part but it didn't seem like he was asked to draw upon his talents.
Jonathan, the scene in the limo wasn't cut, but there is another, quite lengthy, scene which was cut whereby the band get him stoned. This was cut from the theatrical version but included in the deleted scenes in the Spinal Tap DVD release
I am trying to get a message to Billy Crystal--you may know how I can do that. Here's the message:
Mr. Crystal,
Congratulations on your major league at bat—more so, congratulations on doing it at 60 years of age. I’m sure every adult senior baseball player, especially those, like me, who are in our 60s, 70s, and beyond enjoyed the experience with you.
I would like to send you a copy of my book, Baseball: Never Too Old to Play “The” Game, which captures the essence of the experience and challenge of continuing to play baseball while growing older at the same time. Your love of baseball and your ability to continue to cross the white lines are consistent with the themes that run through the book. I’m sure you will enjoy it, as have other baseball fans and senior players around the country.
I am 62 and have been playing about 75 games each year in local leagues and in tournaments around the country and the world. There is baseball to be played and continuing to play is not about age. As Satchel Paige said, “How old would you be if you didn’t know how old you was?”
Please let me know where I can send a book.
Sincerely,
Al Spector
www.aaspector.com
BballNever2Old@aol.com
I was definitely a fan of Bruno Kirby, and loved the chemistry he and Billy Crystal had in their films together, with "When Harry Met Sally" being my favorite. When Bruno didn't appear in "City Slickers 2" with Billy, or any movie after that, I wondered what had happened, b/c they were so good together. I agree that none of Billy's movies since those two have been as good (although I agree that "Monster's Inc" came the closest...I enjoyed that one.) It's unfortunate that things happened as they did and that this duo, and their friendship, never recovered. :(
Thanks for that.
Mr. Bruno Kirby gave me much happiness. Sweet memories, always.
I came across your wonderful tribute after witnessing an equally wonderful tribute (Of sorts.) recently.
Grabbing a quick bite to eat in a dismal lounge in LAX I noticed Lynn Sellers sitting on the other side of the restaurant seating area. Figuring that she wouldn't remember me, my father worked with her in the late 80's, I didn't bother to go over and introduce myself as it would only disturb the magazine article that she seemed to be engrossed in.
Suddenly, in one of those weird syncronicity moments, that I feel our awareness of separates us from the animals, the bartender turned up the lounge television that had been at a murmer so that the busboy could hear the audio. After the limo scene from This Is Spinal Tap ended the bartender verbally recreated the outtake of Mr. Kirby singing in his underwear for the already amused busboy, sharing his opinion that it was a crying shame that the funniest scene in the film was cut. As the description and opinion finished, Mrs. Sellers packed up her magazine and other small effects with a very large smile on her face.
As a child of an entertainment family you quickly learn how little onscreen presence and tabloid persona has to do with the individual behind them. From my own experience in that dingy airport lounge coupled with the wonderful comments in, and in response to, your piece whatever Billy Crystal may or may not have done to Mr. Kirby's career is irrelevant: I have yet to tell, hear or read a complimentary annecdote about Billy Crystal.
I used to work at the Hollywood Improv (1979). When I first saw Bruno having a drink at the bar I went up to him and told him how great he was in Godfather II. He was very grateful, asked my name and over the course of 10+ years I would occasionally be at an event where he was and he always came over to me to say Hello and ALWAYS remembered my name. A Classy and talented man.
I saw an interview with Bruno Kirby where he talked about City Slickers I. He said that he would never "do that show again because he had the director telling him what to do on the one hand and 'someone else' always telling him what to do on the other." Given Billy Crystal's reputation, I figured out Bruno's meaning was "Crytal clear" -- that Bruno Kirby had suffered incessant criticism from Crystal throughout the filming of the movie.
A couple of men who wrote a book on how stars treated their fans said that Crystal was nasty to them. They wondered if it was just them and they just rubbed Crystal the wrong way, so they watched his interaction with other fans. They were trying to be objective. The answer was "nope, it was just Crystal being his impatient dismissive self." Too bad for Bruno Kirby.
rest in peace, my ASS. you killed Bruno while he was Dying of Leukemia. I RESPECT CRYSTAL AS AN ARTIST, AND A FELLOW JEWISH PERSON, BUT DETEST THE WAY HE TREATED HIS SUPPOSED FRIEND. GROW UP, BILLY. STOP BEING A PUTZ, WHICH YOU SURELY ARE. COME ON, LANTZMAN. MAKE YOUR FELLOW LANTZMANS PROUD OF YOU. STOP ACTING LIKE A SCHMECKEL, OR SCHMECKELOVITCH, THE WORST KIND. DO THE RIGHT THING BILLY, FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE. WILLIAM H. GOLDMAN NATIVE FLORIDIAN, NOW LIVING IN BAKERSFIELD, CALIFORNIA WITH MY WIFE OF ALMOST SIX YEARS, PAMELA SUE GREEN GOLDMAN, THE LOVE OF MY LIFE. MAY GOD GRANT US SEVERAL MORE YEARS TOGETHER AS HUSBAND AND WIFE. LA CHIAM, BILLY CRYSTAL AND WIFE JANET GOLDFINGER.
@William H. Goldman, God bless you sir for having the courage to say what needed saying 10 years ago! - Buzz Kyler, Fort Worth, Texas
How sad. Ending friendships are always hard,but to deny a man his livelihood is just inexcusable.
I remember how I found out about Bruno's death. I was watching the Oscars. Funny,I don't remember if Billy was hosting, but they were doing the montage of all the people who had passed that year.
Bruno received the loudest and longest applause.I thought to myself, I'm so glad he was so respected.
Thank you for explaining what had happened.
That was a very nice piece about Mr Kirby. I also enjoyed his roles and was sad when he passed.
Thank you for the inside baseball.
MM
BTW, Crystal is a whacked out REgressive and can kiss my butt.
Wow some great information I never knew. Watching Godfather Epic 1&2 right now. Thought I'd google BK for information.Billy Crystal kinda lucky Overated..he was pretty good on SOAP..really lucky right place right time
"During or shortly after the making of City Slickers, Kirby and Crystal had a falling out, and not only would Crystal no longer work with Kirby, but neither would any of the many producers and directors associated with Crystal, or even friends of his friends."
Where's your evidence for "neither would any of the many producers and directors associated with Crystal, or even friends of his friends"? Crystal may have cut Kirby loose, but where's the evidence that he actively (and successfully) blackballed him? Would Garry Shandling not count as a friend of Crystal? Funny that Shandling cast Kirby five times in his show after the supposed blackballing.
Is it not entirely more likely that Kirby sank again without Crystal's help? Let's look at Kirby's career pre-Crystal: 1974, he does a brilliant job in the hugely successful "Godfather Part II". He didn't have a notable part again until "Good Morning, Vietnam" in 1987. That's 13 years later. He absolutely rocked that part, but it didn't do anything for his career, either. Two more years of unnotable parts followed before Crystal brought him along for "When Harry Met Sally" in 1989.
That's when things, finally, began to change for him.
He got a part in the Sean Penn/Robert DeNiro box-office bomb, "We're No Angels". Garry Shandling gave him a recurring role in his first HBO show, and he got a major part in "The Freshman" opposite Matthew Broderick and Marlon Brando. All within 12 months -- after 20 years of acting, and despite appearing in several major films prior to that.
The truth is that, despite being a brilliant actor, Kirby had limited roles open to him. That's just how Hollywood is. How many reviews of "City Slickers II" lamented his absence? How many audience members even noticed that Jon Lovitz had taken his part? It's a sad fact, because he really was brilliant and talented. Hollywood, and the public, are cruel.
"City Slickers" was a Billy Crystal movie through and through. He may not have directed it, but he co-wrote the script (uncredited), telling many real-life stories from his life in the film. Crystal was the high-tide that raised all boats. Maybe Kirby didn't care for that, and just wanted to work.
Whatever the reason for their falling out, there's no denying that, despite what you try and claim, the 16 years following the supposed blackballing were far more successful for Kirby than the preceding 20. He was in hugely successful projects like "The Basketball Diaries", "Fraser", "Homicide: Life on the Street", "Sleepers" (again with Robert DeNiro), "Mad About You", "Donnie Brasco", "The Larry Sanders Show", and "Stuart Little". In fact they were all in the 90s. That's a fairly successful decade for a character actor.
If you want to point to a place where Kirby's career really hit its nadir, it was from 2000 onwards. Was Crystal really responsible for that?
City Slickers was SUCH a great, funny movie. I watch it today and I laugh at the same places as the first time I saw it. It's always a risk to do a sequel to something THAT successful. I am very much a Billy Crystal fan and yet, I can see why Bruno opted out of the sequel. It just didn't measure up. Loyalty is a big deal in ANY business and Kirby opting out must've caused hurt feelings. I wish they could've repaired this. They had wonderful chemistry together. I was shocked when I heard Bruno passed away. We lost a real talent that day.
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