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Veep debate begins

By Grand Rapids Anonymous
tuesday, october 1, 2024 at 9:14:00 p.m. edt

The first question, on the mideast, was all Vance. The guy is cool as a frozen cucumber. I’ve seen him against the commie witches on the sunday talk shows—good practice for this. Walz tried a roundhouse “left” on Trump, but missed. Round one: Vance 10-8.

--GRA


By Grand Rapids Anonymous
tuesday, october 1, 2024 at 9:24:00 p.m. edt

Climate Change:
Which is a matter of opinion.

Round 2: A draw.

Immigration: A rehash of what we’ve heard. Walz accused Trump of throwing out the immigration bill. Vance said, “Harris, for three years, undid the Trump border policy.”

Round 3: Vance 10-9.

--GRA


By Grand Rapids Anonymous
tuesday, october 1, 2024 at 9:38:00 p.m. edt

The Economy:

Vance and Walz attacked each other’s plans. Walz said, “Trump tax cuts went to the top 1%.”

That’s false, because we all know—at refund time—all of us got more money back, thanks to those tax cuts. In 2025, Harris/Walz will let that expire.

Vance said, “any plan that Harris has, should have been enacted the last 3 1/2 years.”

Round 4: A lot of bickering, but Vance gets the slight 10-9 edge.

--GRA


By Grand Rapids Anonymous
tuesday, october 1, 2024 at 10:06:00 p.m. edt

Abortion:
Both defended their positions with vigor. You can’t rattle Vance. Walz pushed the “freedom for women to decide (whether or not to kill their kid) their health options.”

Round 5: A tie.

It’s a fact that since Roe v. Wade, White demographics have declined precipitously.

Guns:

Vance: mex guns are coming across the border—we need to protect schools.

Walz: what Vance says doesn’t go far enough. some weapons need to be eliminated. do you want your schools to be like a fort?

Vance said, “a lot of our gun problems are in ‘big cities’ [nig cities].”

Round 6: 10-9 Vance.

--GRA


By Grand Rapids Anonymous
Tuesday, October 1, 2024 at 10:25:00 p.m. edt

Inflation and housing:

Vance said, “the millions of unchecked immigrants coming in are causing a shortage in housing.”

(And I believe other food, insurance, and service inflation.)

Walz said, “that’s not true.”

Vance was asked, “what studies back you up on that thinking?”

He said, “a federal reserve study, which we’ll release after the debate.”

It’s supply and demand—imho—period.

Round 8: 10-9 Vance.

Healthcare:

Vance was asked about “Trump’s plan.”

No real answer, though he said, that’s something congress and the President can work on—give and take.

Walz was fired up, talking about healthcare—which is a dem strength.

Round 9: Walz 10-9.

--GRA


By Grand Rapids Anonymous
Tuesday, October 1, 2024 at 10:39:00 p.m. edt

Child care:

A Dem issue they love to talk about--lots of money going to social welfare programs. They're good at it.

Round 10: Walz a slight 10-9 edge.

Democracy:

Walz rammed Trump about 1/6,while Vance said Trump told protesters,"to protest peacefully"

They argued about semantics concerning censorship,but it all went back to 1/6/21. Walz did have Vance on his heels about whether he thought Trump lost in 2020.

Round 11: Walz 10-9.

--GRA


By Grand Rapids Anonymous
tuesday, october 1, 2024 at 10:48:00 p.m. edt

Final result: After a near knockdown of Walz in the first round, Vance held off a hard charging Walz--no slouch, either, at this. Vance was calm and I gave him the decision, 7 rounds to 3, with two ties.

--GRA