Wednesday, March 02, 2022

What Does Putin Want, Simplified, or Maybe Not

By Eahilf
Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 6:05:00 P.M. EST

>So the Ukraine has the former Soviet empire on one side, trying to re-integrate

I don’t think you understand the goings-on in that region over the last 15 years or so.

Putin doesn’t want the Ukraine – he has said so many times, and I believe him.

But just like America uses the Monroe Doctrine to police the Western hemisphere and keep threats from foreign powers away, so Putin does not want the Ukraine to be a member of NATO – he has said this again and again, but the West ignored him.

Russia was not happy with the treatment of the self-declared autonomous zones in the eastern Ukraine, nor with the treatment of ethnic Russians living there – but that problem had existed since 2014, and Putin had not recognized the autonomy of those regions.

Putin would have been content with a neutral, intact Ukraine – i.e., a Ukraine not aligned militarily with the West – but it seems he lost patience, and probably concluded that unless he acted, it was inevitable that the Ukraine would join NATO.

Now that he has recognized the autonomous regions and invaded, it is not clear what he intends to do with the eastern Ukraine – he has no intention of occupying the western Ukraine; he has made this clear.

In the following short video, the situation is explained quite well:

Col. Douglas Macgregor on Putin’s next steps in the invasion of the Ukrain.

This really isn’t that difficult.

By Jerry PDX
Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 9:53:00 P.M. EST

I’m not sure why you always feel the need to condescend, Eahilf. I would not disagree with your information about the Ukraine. I understand there are things going on that I didn’t address, the re-integration comment was meant to be satirical toward the simplistic way world affairs are presented to the American public by the media.



9 comments:

Anonymous said...

Putin wants a land bridge to the Crimea, that's all.

eahilf said...

>the re-integration comment was meant to be satirical

Satire is often not easily recognized -- I did not see your remark as satirical, anyway.

While nothing new, given the recent escalation and current extraordinary heavy-handedness of the anti Russia and anti Putin campaigns by the regime and its servants in the media, one should perhaps be careful to be plainly understood, especially if your 'satire' might be seen to serve the aims of the regime and media -- and assuming you don't want to rhetorically serve the aims of the regime and the media.

Anonymous said...

Tom Luongo,a frequent commentator on ZH,said this today:

"This isn’t a war for Ukraine, it’s a war for the future of the entire world. Ukraine represents the hill both Davos and Russia have chosen to live or die on."


Globalists vs Borderists?

Interesting idea.

--GRA

eahilf said...

>Globalists vs Borderists?

From everything he has said, I think Putin would be happy with 1) a militarily neutral Ukraine (i.e. no NATO membership), and 2) commercial access to the EU on the same terms as Ukraine.

An open question is what will happen to the self-declared autonomous regions (2014) in eastern Ukraine, which Putin recognized after 8 years of political stalemate there.

I don't think Putin is as hostile to the 'world order' as people believe he is.

But I do think he would like to end dollar hegemony, and Russia, together with important partners, most importantly China, are working behind the scenes toward that.

Follow the money: how Russia will bypass western economic warfare

Hudson remarked how he is “simply numbed over the near-atomic escalation of the US.” On the confiscation of Russian foreign reserves and cut-off from SWIFT, the main point is “it will take some time for Russia to put in a new system, with China. The result will end dollarization for good, as countries threatened with ‘democracy’ or displaying diplomatic independence will be afraid to use US banks.”

Depending on future events, these sanctions could backfire on the US by accelerating de-dollarization -- many nations see the lack of US fiscal discipline, the unending creation of vast numbers of fiat dollars, as an amoral abuse of the USD as ‘the world’s reserve currency’; as something that undermines the legitimacy of American hegemony.

Anonymous said...

MACRON SAYS PUTIN WILL NOT STOP--FRANCE IS "PREPARING FOR THE WORST."

(ZH)On Thursday French President Emmanuel Macron held his third phone call with Russia's Vladimir Putin, coming also on the start of the second week of war. A statement from Macron's office said the call was 90-minutes long, but by all accounts didn't go well in terms of any prospects for an immediate cessation of hostilities in Ukraine.

A Macron aide later told AFP that the French leader "then called President (Volodymyr) Zelensky" in Kiev. After the lengthy talk with Putin, France is said to be "preparing for the worst."

"There was nothing that Putin said that reassured us," a source in Macron's office was cited as saying. Macron reportedly told Putin: "you are lying to yourself" while explaining that the continued invasion will only "cost Russia dearly" and lead to international isolation, as well as economy "weakened under sanctions for a very long time".

--GRA

Anonymous said...

jerry pdx
The only point I was concerned with making was that another European country brought into the fold of NATO or the EU is another majority White country subjected to coercive "diversification". Perhaps the rest of what I wrote was a bit glib but it's an important point that is not being discussed.

eahilf said...

The only point I was concerned with making was that another European country brought into the fold of NATO or the EU is another majority White country subjected to coercive "diversification".

? -- I didn't really get that point, sorry -- maybe I misread your comment.

And actually, that important issue is being discussed, and has been discussed for some time, across the Dissident Right; you just need to look in the right places (i.e. not here on the Stix blog) -- in fact, re Ukraine it has been a major theme for a while -- and not just re Ukraine, but also Poland and Hungary.

Here is a recent, very specific example (related to events in Ukraine):

link -- When the dust settles, Hungary, Poland and Romania will be forced to explain why they immediately let in Ukrainians and not Africans and Arabs to their NATO "allies."

Anonymous said...

Why anyone would be so foolish as to believe Putin is beyond me. He says he wants all of Ukraine. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putin-says-violence-will-26378723
Russians never tell the truth if a lie will do--amazing that some believe him.

Anonymous said...

"Putin wants a land bridge to the Crimea, that's all."

Take the port of Odessa and you cripple whatever foreign currency that the Ukrainians can get from shipments of grain to all parts of the world.

Maybe even make contact with the Russian-speakers of Moldova who live east of the Dneister river.