Doing Everything by the Book: The Jason Kessler VDARE Interview, Part V

VDARE: So, your whole thing was, defending these statues, to keep them from…

JK: I mean I had three things. I had a really good description of it, up on the Facebook page, before they took it down.

VDARE: I can’t access Facebook, anyway. I’ve been knocked off of Facebook around five months ago. I was knocked off Twitter, but I’m able to access it again, without being able to post. That was over six months ago (chuckle). These guys are—not just the ones who hate you—but the people running Facebook, and Zuckerberg, and Jack Dorsey at Twitter, they’re very aggressive, too. [Cheuckle.] And they also like to knock off rivals. Not that I’m much competition for them. Or was… but I was growing.

Were you involved in the Friday night thing [August 11], also?

JK: Yes.

VDARE: So, the 8/11, you organized that, too.

JK: I mean that was, we had a lot more organization going toward the 8/12 thing, but that one just happened. With 8/11, we were telling people there’s the people we might do a march for us. For us, it was a civil rights march.

We wanted to do it legally, and safely.

Actually, the guy who got arrested, Chris Cantwell, he suggested, “Look, you need to tell the cops, and make sure that they’re in on it, so they can keep the peace.

He did everything by the book.

At his suggestion on Friday night, I called both the Charlottesville and the UVa police department. I talked to a [UVA PD] Lt. [Angela] Tabler, and I told her what we were going to do, that we were going to march from “Nameless Field,” that’s where we had our rally point, and we were going to march to the Thomas Jefferson statue.

We knew that it’s not just about the Confederate monuments, they’re going to go after Jackson and Washington. There’re all these other people next.

We went to march to Jefferson, to show our support for him.

And the carrying of the torches is like a funeral procession, for the fallen dead of our European ancestors.

You know, like, there’s lots of people who’ve done Viking funeral processions, where they carry the dead to the water, put them in a boat, set the boat on fire, and cast it out to sea. That’s the kind of thing we were doing, and it’s been so mischaracterized, it’s like these critics, they can’t decide whether it’s a KKK march, or a Nazi march. They’re like, “Oh, it’s this, and it’s this,” so why not both?

That was never my intention.

So, yeah, that’s the way that it was. That was just a sort of a quickly strung-together thing. We told people, “Go ahead and bring your torches, in case we decide to do it,” and we did it.

VDARE: Now, regarding the torchlight parade, Tiki-whatever, now some of those guys were shouting, “Blood and soil,” and there was another phrase they were shouting also. They were Nazi phrases. I mean, “Blood and soil” is older than the Nazis, but these guys just know it, because it was a Nazi phrase. So, what’s your take on that?

JK: Well, we had a big tent in the Alt-Right. We didn’t try and… we didn’t vet all the people who were coming. We invited a lot of people, and there’s people who come for different reasons. And some of the people within the Alt-Right community, they’re really used to this Edge Lord humor. And I think some people are frustrated by the historical inaccuracies surrounding World War II, which are really written by the victors, let’s say. And there’s an enormous amount of propaganda around it, so some people take the opposite effect of that and they idealize what happened in World War II on the German side, and I think that the truth is perhaps somewhere in-between.

But not everybody was shouting those slogans. There were some people who were shouting, “You will not replace us!” And then, when we were chanting, “You will not replace us!,” a few people started chanting, “Jews will not replace us!”

And even though I think that that kind of chant is not the right kind of thing for this movement, and I think that it was kind of rude, I think that there is [unclear]. I understand why these young men are frustrated by the [unclear] of the media to accurately portray some of this stuff that’s going on, with the Jews, and their elite position, within the halls of power. I mean, they’re so disproportionately represented, it’s 2% of the population, They have three out of seven Supreme Court justices. You know, I mean, you look at Trump’s cabinet, and it’s becoming more Jewish by the day. It’s like, they had, at least we had Bannon and Gorka, and some of these people, and after Charlottesville, it’s like they had a Night of the Long Knives, for all of these populist-nationalist guys that Trump supporters like. It’s left over, you know, like Steve Mnuchin, the what is this, the Secretary of Commerce, Gary Cohn, who is the national economic adviser. And these guys are so anti-Trump, really, in their philosophy that they are backing ANTIFA.

Gary Cohn said something to the effect that—you can find it on my Web site, the exact quote—but that these ANTIFA are just patriots, and fighting for equality. And these people are brutally assaulting Trump supporters in the streets.

So, this is the kind of thing that people are frustrated about, that you have these very powerful Jews who obviously have an axe to grind, and are obviously being very nepotistic and have some kind of club that’s allowing them to control the Federal Reserve, and these kinds of things for decades and decades, and no one calls them on it.

There’s another aspect to this—is a hard lesson that I’ve learned from this thing, is that I think… What I was trying to do was a civil rights demonstration for white people. And just trying to do a civil rights demonstration for white people means that you’re going to be attacked, slandered, thrown under the bus.

All these organizations that are funded by people like Soros, you’re going to have the ADL and the SPLC coming after you, and ultimately the victories that are won in a civil rights movement are won by attorneys in court. That’s what happened with—I mean, Martin Luther King wouldn’t have been anything without all the Jewish attorneys and Jewish money that was allowing him to stick it to people like Bull Conner, who had him arrested, when he tried to do a march in Birmingham, er, speak in Birmingham.

Yet, when my people get screwed over, we were screwed over. We had a permit, which was enforced by a federal judge’s ruling, and they still didn’t allow us to have our march. The police stood down, did not protect us, and where are the attorneys coming to our side, where’s the media coming to our side? There’s nobody. So, we are really screwed as a group if we can’t have our own civil rights movement.

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“Have Charlottesville ‘Reporters’ been Co-Conspirators with Violent Communists and Anarchists? The Jason Kessler VDARE Interview, Part II”;

“Charlottesville’s ‘total Communist takeover’: The Jason Kessler VDARE Interview, Part III”;

“Paranoia and PsyOps: The Jason Kessler VDARE Interview, Part IV”; and

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