After all, it’s perfectly common to find American-born Hispanics, or those otherwise lawfully in the country in Knoxville, who are so drunk that they passed out in their car, after they allegedly raped a woman, right? So, you’d better put blinders on your curiosity and experience! Wrong.
By Don Jacobs
September 21, 2012 at 4:56 p.m.
Knoxville News Sentinel
KNOXVILLE — Police this morning arrested a man on a rape charge after finding him asleep in his car at the scene of the attack.
Abel Ramirez, 28, of Knoxville was found by officers passed out in his car at the Old Gray Cemetery, 543 Broadway, according to Knoxville Police Department Lt. Paul "Dusty" Lane. He faces a charge of rape.
Lane said Ramirez met a woman at a club in the Fourth and Gill community and persuaded her to follow him in his car because he was low on fuel. The woman agreed and stopped when Ramirez pulled into the cemetery.
"He attacked her and raped her," Lane said.
The woman left the scene in her vehicle and contacted police at 5:41 a.m. She was treated for injuries at a hospital, Lane said.
Officers informed of the allegations drove to the cemetery and found Ramirez asleep in his car, Lane said. Ramirez had been drinking alcoholic beverages, police said.
More details as they develop online and in Saturday's News Sentinel.
• September 21, 2012
• 5:12 p.m.
chiliwillie writes:
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• September 21, 2012
• 5:19 p.m.
JustaguyinKtown writes:
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• September 21, 2012
• 5:19 p.m.
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37920 writes:
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His actions certainly weren't.
• September 21, 2012
• 5:25 p.m.
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60Chanty writes:
Stupid drunk. I hope she is Ok, No plea deal for him!
• September 21, 2012
• 5:33 p.m.
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keepitreal4vols writes:
Momma always said "Nothing good ever happens after midnight"
• September 21, 2012
• 5:41 p.m.
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bltzlfsk writes:
I am way loathe to blame a victim, but really?
Are you expecting Romeo at 4:00 am in a bad part of town?
• September 21, 2012
• 5:46 p.m.
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cartermom writes:
easiest. investigation. ever.
• September 21, 2012
• 6:01 p.m.
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allisonanne writes:
in response to bltzlfsk:
I am way loathe to blame a victim, but really?
Are you expecting Romeo at 4:00 am in a bad part of town?
Loathe it, yet you did. She obviously wasn't looking to get raped.
• September 21, 2012
• 8:39 p.m.
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knoxtaxpayer1 writes:
sorta like a casket,open and shut ?
• September 21, 2012
• 11:13 p.m.
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Magpie writes:
in response to allisonanne:
Loathe it, yet you did. She obviously wasn't looking to get raped.
Much as I tend to argue how difficult it is to prove rape which leads to an equal difficulty in getting a conviction I have to say that not enough information in this story is provided to just default to locking the guy up. I'll wait until I hear more, although normally you only hear about the record of the perp and whatever the female says is just accepted without question.
If she was really raped I hope the man spends a whole lot of years in prison, and she gets the counseling she'll need. I don't care the time of day. No one deserves to go through that. But the flip side is no one deserves to be labeled as a rapist until all the facts are known.
• September 21, 2012
• 11:18 p.m.
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FredFlintstone writes:
Just doing the work no one else wants to do.
• September 22, 2012
• 1:36 a.m.
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dilberteinstein writes:
And another criminal mastermind goes down.
• September 22, 2012
• 2:07 a.m.
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its5oclocksomewhere writes:
That name, Ramirez; that would be Cherokee Indian, Irish or an Italian sir name....Right?
• September 22, 2012
• 9:27 a.m.
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EllieMae writes:
in response to its5oclocksomewhere:
That name, Ramirez; that would be Cherokee Indian, Irish or an Italian sir name....Right?
Noooo, it's Hispanic, idiot. And everyone knows only Hispanics rape, right?
What is wrong with you?
• September 22, 2012
• 10:25 a.m.
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chiliwillie writes:
in response to its5oclocksomewhere:
That name, Ramirez; that would be Cherokee Indian, Irish or an Italian sir name....Right?
Your close, illegal!
• September 22, 2012
• 11:12 a.m.
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literate writes:
in response to Magpie:
Much as I tend to argue how difficult it is to prove rape which leads to an equal difficulty in getting a conviction I have to say that not enough information in this story is provided to just default to locking the guy up. I'll wait until I hear more, although normally you only hear about the record of the perp and whatever the female says is just accepted without question.
If she was really raped I hope the man spends a whole lot of years in prison, and she gets the counseling she'll need. I don't care the time of day. No one deserves to go through that. But the flip side is no one deserves to be labeled as a rapist until all the facts are known.
Well you and Rep. Akins must be palsy walsies.
Do you make this same stupid comment when theft is charged upon the word of the complainant and the police investigation? How about when "two juveniles are attacked on Knoxville College campus"?
FYI, he'll get a trial to determine if he is to be so labeled since you are so concerned about his civil rights. Your ilk are never as concerned about the victim.
• September 22, 2012
• 11:36 a.m.
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a1978 writes:
in response to chiliwillie:
Your close, illegal!
You do realize that people can legally come to the US? I'm not saying I know, but you seem to be implying that you do, which you have no proof.
• September 22, 2012
• 11:39 a.m.
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WetumpkaThumpa writes:
in response to allisonanne:
Loathe it, yet you did. She obviously wasn't looking to get raped.
She obviously isn't too smart either.
• September 22, 2012
• 11:44 a.m.
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ColtfanJ writes:
Why didn't he leave the scene of the "crime" then? Was he that drunk he couldn't leave. If he was sober enough to perform the act then he should have had enough wits to him to get the heck out of there or was it something else entirely?
• September 22, 2012
• 1:08 p.m.
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sct37917#628171 writes:
Whatta drunk idiot.But I will bet that the feeling of cold steel around the wrists sobered him up somewhat.
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